User talk:Supahbadmarine

Hello everyone
I am supahbadmarine. This is my first time working on a wiki and I am very excited to be a part of it. I was wondering if anybody could tell me how to create those messages at the top of the articles. The ones that allow one to take credit for creating an article and inform other if the article is complete. I feel like this is an important thing to know. Also, I noticed on the discussion page of Children of the Gods, an article I created, that NecrusIV stated that there were canon issues. If these issues are serious the article could be taken down. So please point out any issues that could cause trouble and I will modify the article.

Supahbadmarine 01:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

well, to make the article yours, its all in the coding. im gonna use a key to stop the coding working, instead of the (( below, use {{.

((Property|Supahbadmarine))

((Construction|Supahbadmarine))

hope this helps :) --NecrusIV 02:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. any and all help with getting started is important to me.Supahbadmarine 02:09, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

No problem really, I was a noob like you once. --NecrusIV 02:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Good to know that noobs are looked out for. Feel free to use any of my finished material in your articles or stories.Supahbadmarine 02:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sure I would be happy to help you with this faction. --NecrusIV-(Talk) 03:15, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I have two questions. First, am I not a featured User? Second, is there a special way to make quotes? Supahbadmarine 23:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously guys, what is the template for Quotes? Supahbadmarine 23:45, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

you have to do a lot of edits to become a featured user. even i dont know the template for the quote. --NecrusIV-(Talk) 07:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

also, you may already know, but here is a really cool space marine painter: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?s=145ccd5310c31c5a5d0c2fdb7a79a652&autocom=pages&do=show&id=1--NecrusIV-(Talk) 07:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

{{SGsig|text= Heres the quote template.}}

{{Quote|text|source}}

Thanks Necrus. Supahbadmarine 14:57, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

You too SniperGhost.

Lies and broken trust are parts of deception. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 13:55, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, is anybody else turned around since the new format? It looks like leaving messages on your own talk page has to be done as an edit to the entire page. Not to mention the fact that the ability to rate articles has disappeared. What the heck was wrong with the old format? Supahbadmarine 01:29, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the new format sucks. I cant change it back to the old one either. What the F --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 18:38, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nice idea man, however, all blood angels and there sucsessors have blonde hair, Other than that, go for it. Love the idea that the inquisition are using it as an exscuse to snoop. The Charming predator Idea is brilliant. Love it! Yeah your allowed to make him but If you want a pic of him, I'm not sure where youd get it from --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 17:01, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

For categories: I would suggest "Groups" as a good one to add The Purgatory Program to. Also, Would it be okay if my Prophetic Forgiven were either charged with protecting the Program (ie. One of the Inquisitors involved is their current Inquisitorial handler) or they were seeking to destroy it.

They probably would be opposed to it. But... they have to obey their Lord Inquisitor's every word; even if he may be a Radical. If they disobey then the whole organisation can be purged by the Inquisition. A Shadow Before the Dawn 21:13, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I had a great idea over the Prophetic Forgiven's involvment. As the Prophetic Forgiven are charged with hunting down rogue elements within the Inquisition they eventualy discovered the full extent of the Purgatory Program's heritical experimentaions. However, only a few weeks before they were to be sent to 'pacify' Epitaph, their Lord Inquisitor was killed by a renegade assassian (who was tainted by Chaos). In an ironic twist of fate, the new Lord Inquisitor charged with overseeing the Chapter was a high ranking member of the Ordo [=Classified=] who had a heavy involvment in the Purgatory Program. Therfore, they could not continue their plan to shut the program down as the chapter would be purged if they appeared to be rebelling against their Inquisitorial Handler (as this Inquisitor would normally be of a high status and be widely trusted). They are now charged with protecting the very institution they originaly set out to destroy. A Shadow Before the Dawn 01:12, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, i need some assistance with creating a chapter i just made a color-scheme for. You think you could assist me with that chapter? TardirProductions 22:14, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well, i need help with a name and some backstory. The name would be awesome if it had something with "Knights of ......." or "....... Knights". TardirProductions 22:19, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Their color-scheme is dark with crimson as trim, similar to the Angels of Acquittance, and they are loyalists that don't follow the Codex Astartes. They come from a system near the Eye of Terror and a Craftworld of the Eldar but they aren't enemies of the Eldar. That's all i have got this far. TardirProductions 22:24, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Knights of Wrath would be epic. Now it's the backstory that remains, but i will first create the article so we can discuss it on the article's talk page. TardirProductions 22:37, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so Tarkor Evangelus is still alive, but he is in a Dreadnought, and also when i say "is" and "now" i might refer to plenty different timelines, depending on what article it is. TardirProductions 13:16, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Message recieved and understood Supa. TheRedScorpion 04:46, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Drawing
I was wondering how many limbs do you want the Derkallen to have and what input (on physical appearance) that you could give me on the sketch I am working on. I seem to think of them as being like this (it's a Hrud) but more scally (and with a cooler face):

Thanks for clearing that up. So do you want a Psyker, a basic Warrior or some other Derkallen? A Shadow Before the Dawn 19:52, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

A very simple an poorly photographed sketch. I plan to scan the next drawing after I have fine tuned the design. This is the fifth body typ which I have tried and it seemed to fit your description the best. A Shadow Before the Dawn 23:47, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me which lines I crossed so I could fix them. I rather not lose it.

Primarch11

You wouldn't happen to know how to change an article title would you? Also how do I make a contents for my Space Primates?

Thank you for the help and thanks for the comment. I'm already rewriting it entirely.

i don't know can you tell me?

Primarch11

Re: Korpiklaaniand and Admins
I contacted several Admins at once, because I felt it to be important that an Admin look at the page quickly, and I had no idea when any one of them would be on next.--Jochannon 10:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

your allow to use pictures from google right? Primarch11

is it okay if i put space primates as an ally chapter of the Oynx knights? Primarch11

I finished it if you want to see it. Onyx Knights Primarch11

im not a D&D fan, i just discovered the site by accident. also do you know where i can paint a dark eldar or eldar? Primarch11

To address tour first point: I am pleased with the way you have included Syrath. However, I feel I must bring something up- Syrath would have turned them to Chaos before his fall from grace. This means he would still have retained his loyalty to Tzeentch and that it would have been likely that he would have helped the renegades (actively) during the Vralgazi Civil War. The second point: I have checked it out and I will make a comment on it. BTW, was it my chapter you were referencing to as "I think there is a Chapter on the site which had its corruption purged"? Of course, they were only redeemed after 2 years of interogattion by the inquisition; unlike The Redeemed which seem to have been granted forgivness in an afternoon. --A Shadow Before the Dawn 19:26, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think I know which chapter you mean, Johcannon's The Survivors. They are a bunch of renegade survivors that date from the Heresy Era. Though they aren't really a chapter. A Shadow Before the Dawn 19:44, December 8, 2010 (UTC)--

how do I make a link to my profile? Primarch11

THE EMPEROR WILL SMITE YOU DOWN!

no im just kidding but your work is really amazing if you ask me. Legionaire22 17:00, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

If you wanted, I could probably do an article of the Ebony Knights if its okay. Primarch11

Well what color do you want them to have? And which god should they worship and how many of them should there be? Primarch11

Okay Ill get started as soon as I can. Primarch11

Well I made the picture, I don't know if you want me to start working on the article now? Primarch11

Ebony Knights

how do I make a category page? Primarch11 18:31, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I mean like that Council of 13 category page? Primarch11 19:36, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yea that would be great. I'm also working on a category page called Brotherhood of Mai'gum too. Primarch11 21:06, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

How about Bercani people. It can mean "The Greediest People." I'll leave the description to you okay. Primarch11 21:18, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I would like a Clan for Syrath Imposter101 21:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Sycyorth I think would be a suiting name.Imposter101 21:46, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Awsome I will add a small amount of info right now Imposter101 21:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

how do I change the title of a category? Primarch11 01:55, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, Arzally needs a few slaves to tinker with when the voices in his head aren't enough to keep him company, I was thinking "The D'ni People" (Pronounced Dinee) for the followers. --NecrusIV-(Talk) 03:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please consult me on things that involve Syrath. I spent a large amount of time writting 99% of Syrath's fluff so I would appreciate being notified of any additions regarding the Daemon. Please consult me before Imposter101 in future.

Regards Cal_XD --A Shadow Before the Dawn 18:39, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I've just made an edit. Tell me what you think on its Talk page. --A Shadow Before the Dawn 18:43, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

how do i get to the photo gallery, because its not showing up on my screen? Primarch11 11:36, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi i saw your message. I responded to a couple of his and said sorry. Its that Im new with this and I didn't know really how to respond. Primarch11 21:32, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I will. Also, has anyone else uploaded tau pictures. Because Im doing right now and I don't want to make mine look like theres. Primarch11 21:42, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Primarch11 22:07, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

can you help me. Both my Space Primate and Mui'gam articles have been put up as non friendly cannon and I don't know what to fix or change. Primarch11 16:10, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I made changes about that now. Mui'gam Primarch11 23:52, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

do I need the admin's permission to remove that non-friendly canon thing or can I just do it myself. Primarch11 00:25, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I've okay-ed the rivalry with Syrath's Warriors and the brotherhood. I have undone his deletion of the rivalry as I like the idea. I am very understanding of his position as my friend, Imposter101 was in a very similar position to Primarch11 when he started. If I hadn't been there to actively guide (and defend) Imposter101, a lot of his original stuff would have been deemed NCF (check out the history and look at the original beginnings of Syrath's Warriors, Farseer Syess and you'll see what I mean). Imposter101 originally wanted Syrath to be a proper Chaos God (which would have been an immediate NCF cause of fluff issues) but I found a way round it by taking inspiration from the Skarbrand by having him as a Daemon who wished for (and attempted to gain) Godhood. I have made some heavy edits to Imposter101's work and I have taught him more about the canon so that he can enrich his articles. As a result, I was very proud of his excellent start to Cyrse Craftworld (I made very few changes to his writting, I only added tons more fluff). Yours Cal_XD. --A Shadow Before the Dawn 01:22, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think I should keep making more articles, or wait till this whole thing with the Space Primates and Mui'gam blow over? Primarch11 17:08, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I guess, but then I'll have to change my Mountain Bears one too. Primarch11 17:39, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

How about if I say that the Imperium discovered that many of the Tyranid Hive Fleets seem to enter into the area where the Space Primate's homeworld and recruiting worlds are. Thus the chapter would have to increase their numbers. Primarch11 17:51, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still trying to think of a reason which would allow him to have 2000 marines. He could put it down to the sector being home to countless Xenos races which are yet to be purged and that the Primates have been allowed such large amounts of Marines in order to purge said races and win planets for the Imperium. Or something like that. You got any ideas? --A Shadow Before the Dawn 21:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Space Wolves succesor is an intresting idea. However that itself is bending the canon as the SW geneseed is supposedly too unstable for a Successor Chapter to be sanctioned. Anyway, as I'm not sure on that, I'll move on. I was also thinking that the large numbers could be justified if the Imperial worlds were sparsely distributed, hence more Astartes were required to protect the expanding sector as well as aiding with the conquest of new worlds. I think we should probably propose these ideas to Primarch11. --A Shadow Before the Dawn 22:25, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I have two things. 1. thank you both for helping. And 2, how about we put my idea of the tyranids along with the idea of xenos on other worlds because after the Tyranid attacks, the other aliens might decide to rise up. Both causes would allow the chapter to be able to recruit more. Let me know. Also Im going to send this to Cal XD. Primarch11 23:37, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Adeptus Curates
I was already typing a response when I got your message, thanks.Jochannon 00:12, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

do you think Dark Seer will get rid of the NFC on my Space Primates soon? Because I changed the numbers saying 1600-2000. Primarch11 04:06, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

thank you so much, I hate having to ask for your help in this matter. Primarch11 05:09, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

so I was thinking for the Ebony Knights article, how about you put in how they turned traitor, and ill add stuff that they do later on and if you see anything you don't like, change or get rid of, i don't mind. We'll let each other know when we add something okay? Primarch11 19:28, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Would it be NFC if i made a chaos warband that had dark apostle? Primarch11 18:41, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me and I hope you feel better. Primarch11 19:07, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi im making a new chapter that is similar to the Knights of Lupercal, i was wondering of the Onyx Knights can be there allies. Also how are you feeling after your surgery? Primarch11 17:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of saying that the Ultramarines felt guilty, that because of their much larger numbers turned the Alpha legion to chaos. Also that this was a good chance to help of what remains of the legion's former honor and glory. It could also be a way to help form a new bond of friendship. If can think of anything else, or another chapter that might have had a good relationship with the Alpha legion, let me know. Primarch11 18:33, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

I have thought about that too, but i have found the answer. Google and Lexicanum. TardirProductions 20:28, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

yeah I think we will start seeing lots more very soon. Primarch 11 wants to make 1 for each traitor legion. --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 18:19, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

i've just started on a new chapter made of Iron Hands and Emperor's children what do you think so far? Emperor's Iron Primarch11 23:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supahbadmarine, can you please look at my article the Shadow Lords, I've made a major mutation known only as the curse and I want to check its keeping in the confines of cannon. --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 11:35, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

is it just me, or is some wiki contributor constantly doing edits without permission. Primarch11 19:40, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Supah, do you know what would happen if a librarian had an affinity with machines? Has there ever been a case of a librarian being a Techmarine as well, or is it just a case of "you can lift stuff with your mind, your a librarian regardless of how good you are with technology."

Wanted to know because I plan on making a Techmarine can control machines with thought alone without being in contact with the machine. --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 20:31, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

i know. if he/she (You never know) does it to one of my articles, i would be really pissed off. Primarch11 21:19, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

i'd also like to know something. Are there librarian dreadnoughts? Because for the chapter im making founded by the Thousands Sons and Blood Angels, their chapter master would be a librarian whose in a dreadnought. I even found a picture of one. Primarch11 21:24, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to bother you again. now as you know im planning on making four more chapters founded by loyalist and surviving loyalist of traitor legions. I thought up of conditions that they had to do made by the High Lords of Terra and just wanted to know if you had any suggestions.

Titanium Fist: Iron Warriors and Imperial Fist. These guys were easy. Because of both founding legion's similar speciality in sieges, the chapter would be a crusading chapter, assign to retake or conquer worlds for the Imperium, and be allowed to have a number of 2000 marines.

Fire Prophets: Salamanders and Word Bearers. They would have to spread the Imperium's religion across the galaxy or destroy daemon or xeno worlds.

Black Shields: Death Guard and Dark Angels. This chapter would have to hunt down renegade chapters and either bring them on trial or wipe them out.

Infinite Angels: Blood Angels and Thousand Sons. These guys were difficult. My only idea is that due to the Thousand Sons large numbers of psykers, and the Blood Angels long liveness, they would have to help locate and bring psykers to the Imperium's service, before they are corrupted by chaos. Also they would have to study to locate and possibly stop warp storms from taking worlds.

I also thought that their death company could be marines who suddenly have a spike of psychic powers boost and in order to control it they are placed under a Librarian, a psychic marine who is an expert of using psychic abilities.

So tell me what you think and let me know if you have any suggestions. thanks. Also i sent this to Tom, but i don't know when he'll respond and it never hurts to have more then one opinion.

Also If you plan to bring out the chainaxe on this guy, why not as Kharn the Betrayer to take care of him :) Primarch11 21:51, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

I understand what you mean so i changed them

Prophets of the Lion: Word Bearer and Dark Angels. The loyalist Word Bearers helped captured a fallen dark angel who the loyal ones were pursuing and instead of reporting this during their trial, they kept silent, understanding how much the chapter wishes to cleanse their name of these traitors. this makes the dark angels stick by their side.

Fire Guardians: Salamanders and Death Guard: The Death Guard, before the heresy believed that humans should be free of oppression. this is similar to the Salamanders belief. so the sons of Vulkan might see the loyalist defending a small colony from a ork horde, thus provoking the Salamanders to vouch for them on trial.

As for the Imperial Fist and Iron Warriors, don't forget i managed to make a chapter of both Alpha Legion and Ultramarines who were also rivals so ill work something out soon. Primarch11 13:01, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! Still looking forward to the rest of Ezekiel's past =D TardirProductions 13:59, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can the Onyx Knights be allies with the Fire Guardians? Look at their Doctrine. Primarch11 18:37, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I read it and though im sort of pissed off, I still intend to do my Titanium Fist chapter idea (Imperial Fist and Iron Warrior descendent) Primarch11 20:30, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

are you allow to make new types of power armor. because i did that with the Fire Guardians. Primarch11 20:47, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I will, but i want to explain to him why because if i did it right away without giving a reason, i would feel kind of bad. Primarch11 21:04, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, i try. Its nice to have an intellectual conversation. Also im glad you've started to work on the Northern Fangs chapter. Primarch11 21:10, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

well i did it. Now i just have to wait for his response. Primarch11 21:13, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

i've noticed that. Also just want your advice on when i make my Dark Angels and Word Bearers chapter. I was thinking that along with worshipping the Emperor and the Lion, they could also worship the Imperial Saints and the Machine God, what do you think? Primarch11 21:23, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

just want a second opinion. Do you think I should start on my brotherhood of the Faithful now or wait until i finish the last three chapters? Primarch11 21:36, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

good point, thanks! Primarch11 21:40, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Admins
somethings wrong with the picture for the new chapter i put up. Titanium Fists Primarch11 00:30, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks i will. Primarch11 00:37, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

is Regis Drazen the First Chapter Master of the Knights of Lupercal? I think he is but I'm not 100% sure. --For Russ! For the Wolftime! 09:14, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks okay to me. The Hedoth is actually kind of the enemies off all of the species in the galaxy, exept for the Eldar and Tau. TardirProductions 22:32, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

dude check out how much i've done to the Titanium Fists chapter. Primarch11 22:33, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, me and the Mil Agroans are almost driven insane(Well, i am insane already) of battle lust. TardirProductions 22:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

And i will make sure to bring Neuropa's best Technicans to... "recover" the Mutacrat technology. TardirProductions 22:38, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

well to answer you first question when they start to recruit, the High Lords give them a number of how many they can recruit. and as for your second one i was already going to do that i just need to tell Tom. Primarch11 22:40, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

That would be AWESOME! And i should probably warn the Milky Way Regiment of Rim Teckh. And maybe Hedar too. But ready you cannons and chainguns, for here the Neuropa-Mil Agro league comes, and they have brought their titans! TardirProductions 22:44, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then i will see to that the Tanks and Titans stomp the Mutacrat infantry good. Why am i talking Orkish? Well, i will continue, because Ork talk is epic. TardirProductions 22:53, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

i would like my five brotherhood of the faithful chapter and the Space Primates to participate. Primarch11 21:18, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks man,

It's still a work in progress. I'll keep working on tweaking it.

No, it doesn't have one yet. I haven't come up with a good name yet or any background. A Shadow Before the Dawn 19:10, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll let you know when I start writting the fluff for one. Sorry for the late reply but right now I'm juggling painting an Adeptus Curates Curator and a Dark Mechanicus marine; teaching my brother's friend how to paint a Prophets of Destiny army; dreaming up and drawing more concept designs for a Derkallen; studying and tidying up my own fluff. I should be finished by late May if I stay on schedule. :P A Shadow Before the Dawn 21:21, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

It would be great for him to encounter Syarth. Also, would you like another Astartes ally for him. My upcoming character Lorenzo Drasus (who is quite unconvential in his thinking for an Astartes of the Prophetic Forgiven). I thought it would be interesting as Lorenzo is a powerful Psyker, and would probably put Zeke on edge. A Shadow Before the Dawn 20:30, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the comment, hey tell if this is good. The thousand sons try to destroy a warp storm and when they finally close it, the after effect releases some shockwave that neutralizes their gene-seed mutation. Primarch11 12:59, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

what are you talking about, their going to have gene-defect of the blood angels? Primarch11 19:32, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

so i want your opinion on this. So i was thinking of when i was done with the Infinite Angels and brotherhood, i would do a new one about an Inquisitor who is actually a sensei and he plans on destroying the ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition and have the Imperium less cruel on its people. Also that he was allied with several alien races and also with a empire created by eight chapters who worship the Emperor. Good idea or too NCF? Primarch11 04:18, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

A New Project
Well, since I have contributed to some of your articles and you have helped to enrich mine by linking them more and more, I would like to make a proposition. For the site's 700th article I made the Revenant Tigers (name can be changed BTW), a doomed chapter. I would be honoured if you could contribute some of your creative genius to the article in one way or another. A Shadow Before the Dawn 15:41, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I misspelled, when I meant emperor i meant the Star Child

from Primarch11 18:08, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

do you think i should work on the Sensei idea now or wait till im done with the brotherhood. Primarch11 19:29, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

i was thinking the same thing. Quick question, are Inquisitors life expanded? And if they are how because i can't seem to be able to figure it out. Primarch11 20:47, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I found a picture for Regis Drazen if you like it. Primarch11 01:13, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

well one is a regular dreadnought and the other is Bjorn. so which one do you want. Primarch11 01:35, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

ok i put it up do you want me to put it on the page or do you want to do that? Primarch11 01:43, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

sure after that i need to work with Cal on some members for the Shadow Claws we are doing. Did you read about Grim Doris. Primarch11 01:48, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

i did it. Primarch11 01:49, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hey so Cal and I are working on a renegade group of marines called the Shadow Claws, marines who worship the Star Child, they also have other renegade marines from other chapters. So if you have an idea of a marine from one of your chapters that you like to contribute, leave a comment of the Shadow Claws Talk Page. Primarch11 20:55, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

hey so i don't know if Cal told you yet but we're trying to get marines from other fanon chapters for our renegade group the Shadow Claws. if you have any then leave a comment on the Shadow Claws talk page. Primarch11 19:47, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

for my Grim Doris story, do you think I should put down what years each event happened? Primarch11 17:53, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

i read it, so? Is it because its a second founding? Primarch11 20:54, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

o now i see it, their Former World Eater marines. Primarch11 21:03, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

i know also is it kind of NCF that he made it sound like a Second Founding chapter. Primarch11 21:27, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

hey tell me if this sounds to NCF. Grim Doris discovers this hidden home on an asteroid at the edge of the galaxy. It was the home of a mysterious being who was alive during the Ancient Times of the Old Ones and C'Tan and he came from a different galaxy. He also had powerful stones that were scattered across the galaxy and Grim and other beings are seeking them out. Maybe it can be related to that other galaxy you've been thinking of. Primarch11 21:49, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

thanks i was thinking about working on it once i get a little bit more done with Grim Doris. Primarch11 22:24, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

i never thought of that, but i like how they are. Primarch11 13:15, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

you can tell me, i like hearing other's opinions. Primarch11 00:48, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

well there very well done and i like the description. But, and i mean no offense, i like my chapters and don't forget two of the chapters are Toms. Primarch11 02:15, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

hey so tell me if this sounds good. A tau sept that has contact with Grim and are on good terms with him. They also have good relationship with an empire that worships the Star Child. Primarch11 18:19, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

well i was thinking of doing the same thing like the Star Lords. of course the Sept would still believe in the Greater Good. Primarch11 18:24, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

hey so u may want to read my new page Bevid, because i added something about Regis and wanted to know if it was cool with u. Primarch11 00:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

sure what kind of ideas of conflicts for them do you have. Primarch11 00:13, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

that sounds like a good idea. I read the article and i was thinking maybe during Isstvan III, Regis saw him kill those one of the two sergeants, Maros? Primarch11 00:21, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

ah well maybe they ally with Bevid? Primarch11 00:26, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

yea i was actually thinking that they could still call themselves the Sons of Horus or something. of course Bevid has allies from other legions but maybe their not part of his warband. What do you think?

Primarch11 00:32, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

im working on a picture of it right now. the son of horus marine. Primarch11 00:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Supah just finished editing alittle more on Lycan.I decided to give him alittle more of a background story let me know what you think and feel free to give some suggestions.

quick question, do the Onyx Knights know of Regis origin. Primarch11 01:36, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

i added in something in the Horus Heresy section of Bevid you may want to add. also ill add the stuff you put in the Drazen page soon. Primarch11 05:49, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

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Love the new fluff for Tervar. Can't wait for more. Imposter101 07:09, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

hey tell me if this sounds good. i was thinking that Bevid's weapons would be a Lightning Claw with a built in plasma cannon and the other a daemon weapon that could change into a mace, axe and sword. what do you think? Primarch11 18:41, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

hey supha. im hoping this isn't much to ask but could you maybe make a quote on the Drazen page about Bevid? i don't care what it says im just wondering. i was actually thinking that Bevid killed the first Great Wolf of the Knights of Lupercal. his name is on the page. Primarch11 21:23, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Im working on Mecanicil page that he and Regis are friends. also you may want to add on the Regis page about the creation of the Brotherhood. Primarch11 15:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, listen I was wondering if you could tell me more about the Hive levels on an Imperial world like the one Lycan and Ezekiel were born on works?

thanks, ill check it out. Also im starting the page for the Sons of Horus warband. Primarch11 17:36, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

i like the Lycon article but how would he relate to Grim? Primarch11 17:40, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

wow pretty ambitious. Okay ill ask if he wants Lycan to be friends or something with Grim. Primarch11 18:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

hey maybe that Ezekiel guy you made could have met Grim Doris Primarch11 18:05, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

so how would they meet and stuff. if you have any ideas let me know. Primarch11 18:30, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

have you read my new page The Traveler Primarch11 04:04, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know that you have. I am stalking the edits. TardirProductions 09:13, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

hey so i did a little background story of how Mecanicil and Regis meet during the Great Crusade. Primarch11 12:03, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, I updated Lycan's article a bit check it out I feel am getting close to the good stuff. Arcangle 00:47, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

sure i would love too. Maybe a vindicare assassin named Sarth Demurs and he could be the 2nd in command maybe. Primarch11 21:08, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

i was thinking that one of Grim Doris's allies is an assassin who was used for an experiment to combine all six temples abilities into one assassin in the M41. He survived but fled and was found by Grim Doris and has served as his personal assassin. he could be one of their prime targets. tell me what you think and ill work on it. Primarch11 21:17, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

ok ill add both guys to it and also i was thinking that maybe the team should have one or two assassins from each temple or something.

Primarch11 21:21, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

well i added the two im going to add Zekk to Grim Doris's page in the ally section. Primarch11 21:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

maybe someone from the Eversor temple. Since they usually do slaughtering missions he could be like a diversion assassin, attacking a more defended target, and allowing the rest of the team to eliminate another target. Primarch11 03:36, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

that assassin team idea of yours made me come up with a special team of marines in Deathwatch. Primarch11 21:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

hey do you know any alien race that would want to be part of the Empire of the Star Primarch11 21:55, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

sure ill ask Tom though. Primarch11 23:07, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, can you tell me what it would take to build or make a titan and any other details about titans. Also Is there any special condition where a Titan is deployed. Arcangle 15:27, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I still have interest in Namagh. I have just too much creativity towards new characters. And i will. TardirProductions 13:47, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

so i took your advice about Mui'gam and did some changes. i changed some of the daemons too and ill start on the warbands as well. Primarch11 13:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

sure go ahead. Primarch11 19:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah would it be alright if I used the Onyx Knights chapter in my article, you know the ones who will come in on Lycans world to stop the mayhem? Arcangle 19:57, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the idea hadn't thought of that. Primarch11 21:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Supah just finished updating please take a look, I am feeling very proud of myself and let me know what you think. Arcangle 21:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

does a tau sept thats part of the Empire of the Star sound good, and can they have two worlds or just one? Primarch11 03:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

what if it was to show a good friendship between the two empires and though the sept is part of the Empire of the Star it still follows the religion of the Tau Empire. Either that or that sept has best relationship with the Empire of the Star and its head Ethereal acts as the tau empire's representative. Primarch11 03:46, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

so i just posted my sept up a few hours ago, ive just done the history of how it was made but can you how it is so far. Me'Ta Sept. Primarch11 19:28, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, did you edit Lycan's article recently, like maybe two days ago? I checked the final paragraph and it looked like it had been edited by someone else. Arcangle 01:42, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, I'm a fan of a lot of your work and I was wondering if you could critique my Knights of Infinity SM chapter. Victory is Forever! 07:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Haha yeah I can see how the Ultras wouldn't be too happy with the Knights... As for the Apothecaries, I was already going to write that in, I just wasn't happy with the way I worded it, so I skipped and moved on. Victory is Forever! 17:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noticed how its kind of a hit-or-miss. Some articles area amazing, like Alistair and Gold Legion, and then you get the Lizard Men and Blue Crosses... Victory is Forever! 18:13, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I glanced at him, haven't read the whole thing yet though. From what I've seen he looks pretty awesome. Victory is Forever! 03:27, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why, but Zeke reminds me of the Ciaphas Cain novels. Maybe its because both he and Cain take full advantage of their charisma. Great article :D Victory is Forever! 03:38, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Noticed you didn't have pictures for your Zeke article, so here are some that I found and edited to fit the story:



Yeah, I figured he looked to bulky for Zeke, but he had the eyepatch and a hat so I thought I'd let you check it out. Victory is Forever! 21:24, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

so i was thinking that maybe Grim was looking for Enziekel (not sure if i spelled that right) because he knew where something that Grim wanted was. So in return for retrieving it, Grim would take him somewhere of his choosing. What do you think? Primarch11 21:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

i was thinking the same thing. im actually working on it right now. Primarch11 22:19, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

While I was pretty wasted I had a brainwave. Now, I noticed Primarch11 is very keen in Grim and Zeke meeting. You are keen for Zeke and Syrath to meet, plus, at the same time, Primarch11 is also keen for Grim to meet Syrath (for a second time). And Syrath just happens to be interested in those Stones of the Gods... So... (can you see where I am going with this) what if we had an even bigger linking between Syrath, Grim and Zeke (and of course the Brotherhood of the Watchful Eye/Lorenzo Drasus which I've previously mentioned. Maybe the way in which Syrath encounters Zeke is by hunting down the Ogue Trader to get a stone (for Bevid). Thoughts? it's just seem too good an opportunity to miss in simultaneously linking three (large) articles together. A Shadow Before the Dawn 00:39, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Great. I haven't run it past him yet but I'll send him a message. I think Zeke should find one of the stones purely by accident. Overall I'm pleased that 3 non-astartes characters are able to be so effectively linked. A Shadow Before the Dawn 00:58, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

i like the idea too (i read what Cal sent to you) we should make a blog post or something so we can plan this out a little more orderly then just sending messages to user talks. or we could do it on one of the three character talk pages. im copying this to Cal. Primarch11 01:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

okay you should let Cal know about that. Im going to go back and work on the Stones of the Gods some more. Also beside a blog, the only other good place to discuss this would be Grim Doris's talk page since it has less then the other two. Of course thats my opinion.Primarch11 01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with you Supah. We should move it to Grim's Talk Page (because Syrath's is cluttered and Zeke's is just so long). I'll post my next idea's on the page. A Shadow Before the Dawn 02:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

hey supha, do you have any fanon xeno races i could use for the Stones page? Primarch11 20:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

their good, you don't mind if i put them on the Stones of the Gods page for what effects they do to species do you? If you want, you can write down what effects those are, just make sure there not fully good or fully bad. Primarch11 20:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

if you're not able too, i could start the story and you and Cal could edit or add anything. Primarch11 21:52, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

what time period should the story take place in. Primarch11 21:19, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

what about 918.M41? Primarch11 22:00, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

well i think the date for when this event happened is kind of important because Marine captain that Cal put in is part of the Prophetic Forgiven and they are enemies with the Shadow Claws, who are part of Grim's forces. But the Shadow Claws weren't form until later in the M41 and it never hurts to have a date.Primarch11 22:24, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

we won't do a date. Primarch11 01:10, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

so i posted up our thing. I haven't given it a good name yet because i just wanted to posted it up but im planning to start the story soon. Primarch11 02:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

that sounds nice, i think ill do it now since i have time. thanks Primarch11 02:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

he finds the Coin of Aruto also called "Coin of Fate" one side brings good luck and the other bad, and the person's fate depends on which side he gets. Primarch11 02:50, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

its kind of oval shape but it basically looks like a coin attached to a necklace. if its easier i could put it on the Stones of the Gods page. Primarch11 02:57, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

did it Primarch11 03:04, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

nice work, do you think we should continue with Zeke or go to one of the other guys like Grim or Syrath? we should also let Cal know ill send him a message. Primarch11 04:08, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know that Grim has alien friends who travel with him, should i include them and when he and Zeke meet, does he make up some kind of reason why. Primarch11 04:30, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, humour articles are fair enough... there has been a lot of contest over them in the past and its fair enough if people wanna make out of this world stuff... ill stay right away from them, but will still have a say on the supposedly canon-friendly ones... the how-to's by Joch are a good idea... he is a smart guy and has the same idea as me with articles... super-powered forces are stupid and will be pointed out, thanx for the heads up --War within, War without, War unending 13:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

well i haven't heard anything from Cal, do you think i should star the next chapter. Primarch11 17:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead with the next chapter if you like. I'm on holiday now (a couple of hundred miles from my computer) and can only make small updates by iPhone. I won't be able to contribute for a week now. This was the main reason that I favoured a blog at this current moment over an actual article. Can you please relay this message to Primarch11. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 18:52, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

okay then after lorenzo is Grim Primarch11 18:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

you do know that you got a message from Cal that he won't be able to do updates for awhile now Primarch11 18:54, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I just read up on Drazen and honestly... I dont know where to start with what is wrong with it. It is a well-written article but to establish a canon-friendly grounding is near impossible with its status. I'd go and make a list of all the problems I saw with it but would prefer not to unless you wish me to. The first quarter or so, up until he made fun of leman russ and was called a little brother was good... from then on it gets far-fetched... If it wasnt a first founding chapter with a pre-established fighting style, traditions and relationships with other legions would be different. Also like to point out that the minds of dreadnoughts fade over time from the moment they are placed within the casket... they also sleep when they arent fighting generally... --War within, War without, War unending 12:03, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, could you take a look at my Jericho Terrius article? I need someone else's opinion. Totalimmortal 18:04, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

he supha i just had an idea for crossing paths. After Zeke finds the stone, he is confronted by of Grim's people who tries to take it, but he fails and flees and reports back to Grim. Primarch11 18:49, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

well Grim is friends with an Eldar Pirate named Ularis. Maybe the two ran into each other, Ularis tried to take the stone, failed and left with only some loot. you could do that part and i could do the part in which Ularis finds Grim on a world with that Prophetic Forgiven captain, the eldar tells Grim and grim uses his own network to find Zeke but he is soon attacked by cultist who work for Bevid. Primarch11 20:51, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

With Regis... Its not the quote per-say, its more the "made a joke at the expense of Russ" part... Russ' own brothers wouldnt have been able to do that, his own Legion was different tho as they were of his own Geneseed, it's simply coz a Luna Wolf said it... If you could possibly add more context into the area to make it work it would be fine... With the whole Dreadnought area of things, if you could add more into how he manages to keep his mind it would work better. Keep in mind Bjorn the Fell-handed sleeps for a thousand years, and is generally only revived when a huge war is fought if it is before then, that is how he remembers... most dreadnoughts encased for extensive periods come to only remember who the enemy is, who the friend is and anything they hold close in their mind... eg. a Grey Knight dreadnought would remember the prayers and would chant them on the battlefield. A Dreadnought would never be a Captain due to being only reverred as a relic of ages past and a hero, then when they need to sleep there would be none to lead the chapter... being a captain or chapter master for them is impossible. And there is little to no chance a dreadnought would have been able to meet with the high lords of terra, a dreadnought, once entombed, is a walking war machine, destined to a life in the battlefield and no more... Him being transfered to other chapters is unlikely but if you can find reasoning for it it would be fine, due to being a dreadnought, and due to being transfered to other chapters following the first and second black crusades, Regis would have to sleep most of the time... even bjorn only lasted 500 years before succumbing to the need for extended sleep... hope this helps... but this article can still easily be fully canon-friendly and only borders on NCF, the lupercal article is still fully NCF --War within, War without, War unending 02:56, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

have you noticed there's been a lot of talk about the Knights of Lupercal Primarch11 20:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

i see, im sort of working on the Crossing Paths story because Cal won't be on as much for awhile. Primarch11 20:51, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Supah! Hahah that was quite amusing, can't wait to see it finished!Patriot398 10:01, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I have. I consider it to be a well-written and very amusing article. --03:32, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, could you check over my Jericho Terrius article to see if I didn't explain something well enough? I looked through it and it seems fine, but I already know what's happening. Totalimmortal 09:11, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Of course it will be exiting with a big community project. But one question, who mentioned the RC? We have long ago cleared up that the RC's real primarches are Rogal Dorn and Sanguinius. TardirProductions 12:42, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

And also, me and Totalimmortal have looked at some more of Ultragreek's works, and Totalimmortal thinks that it is that Canon-Hostile that we have to remove the page, and i need someone with more knowledge with the canon than me to look at it. I am asking one or two admins to look at it too. Regards, TardirProductions 12:52, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

It is an interesting idea, however it's a little too close to NCF for my liking. If Dark Seer supports it then I will work with it and contribute. --Lither My talk 02:09, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Whats up Supah, I have an idea for my Jericho article that involves Zeke in a minor cameo role, if its okay with you (don't want to give away details yet) Totalimmortal 09:15, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I wrote the part of the story that had Ezekiel's small role in it, but it ended up being more than just a minor cameo appearance. Not to say that he became a major part of the plot, either. Check it out, and if you want it changed, I understand completely. Or if you want to change the dialogue to fit your vision of Zeke, thats fine too. Totalimmortal 10:31, April 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * facepalm* I knew I forgot something when I was writing it... Oh well. Totalimmortal 18:30, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

hey tell me if this a good idea. So you know I made the Brotherhood of the Faithful right. Well i was thinking about making something called the Order of the Dark Loyalist, 9 chaos warbands, each from the 9 traitor legions. Not only would they worship Chaos Undivided/ individual gods, but their Primarchs as well. Bevid would be one of them and each warband would change their name from their legion. They wouldn't be as organized but stable and would be the Brotherhood's greatest enemy. what do you think? Primarch11 21:22, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

two reasons:

1. its the only thing i could think of for right now.

2. many of the marines in the legions do not look up to their primarchs as before and focus their worship and loyalty to Chaos. So in some way these marines are loyal to their masters who betrayed their father and can be seen as dark loyal sons.

if you can think of another name, let me know. Primarch11 21:43, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

sure he could be part of the warband. Not the leader maybe but perhaps a 2nd command. Also the warband is going to be called the Voids Eye. Primarch11 21:58, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

that works Primarch11 22:13, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

well actually i got the idea from Helghast also why should i not make an alliance with the Solaris Federation Primarch11 14:38, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

God... I remember that, a bloody mess... better left well enough alone --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 13:13, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. But make sure that they have many sorcerers, and there are females there too, as Namagh dosen't choose a particular gender to follow him, like Slaanesh, even though Namagh dosen't like Slaanesh. And BTW, i see that you recently reached 2000 edits. Congrats. Regards, TardirProductions 21:24, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we could call them Ghaneghi, meaning The Silent People. And also note that despite the Vralgazi's nature of seeing other Chaos followers as minor, the Namaghi would still side with other Namaghi followers, as Namagh thinks that power lies in co-operation, and that is why he gathers most of his followers into one alliance. Regards, TardirProductions 21:33, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And could you read my newest article, Fear Incarnate, and tell me what you think? It isn't much now, but it will be more. Regards, TardirProductions 22:10, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

lol, i meant Fury Incarnate. Regards, TardirProductions 22:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yo dude just edited Lycan, he's at the part where he wants to create a nation or um organization that will lead a civilization away from the Emperor.

P.S beat MK, sad sad ending, but lovin the game 69.61.135.219 03:31, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Na missed it, ill take a look at ur articles now and figure out proximity with the Margos to see if it would work --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 04:10, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Im not sure how you would work a conflict between the Derkallen and the Margos, both are hell-bent on extending their territories and wouldnt quit till they were victorious... where are the derkallen located?

It would make a good read... just not sure how it wouldnt escalate and still look good on our articles coz neither side would really back down... Theres two options we can really go with, if the Derkallen have colony worlds and the Margos expanded into one it would lead to war, or of course the other side you mentioned with the Derkallen looking for converts and invading Margos space... we could make it a ocntinuous war that is consistently going on possibly... let me know your thoughts --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 14:50, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yeh i follow how they run, i mostly just gave the article a skim-thru to see they characteristics coz it was before work this morning... saw the bit bout kroots and guessed they were in a different area of space... by the sounds of it they act like eldar craftworlds, by all means write something up on it --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 15:18, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, what's a good name for an Eldar female. I tend to stay away from them most of the time to know much about their naming system. Vivaporius 18:02, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Zeke
I updated Crossing Paths with a second chapter detailing the events of Syrath being summoned by Bevid. Tell me what you think on the Talk page. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 20:19, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

For the forces of Syrath it would be the First War Legion (as retrieving the stone would be deemed an important enough task for their deployment) led by Lord Coraks. The Thrid, Fourth and Tenth War Legions would also be used later on in a conflict if it escalated. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 17:41, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Also, good luck with the Chaos Gods. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 17:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well the 5th War Legion has the most easily replaceable members and would typically be used for smaller engagements. Also, neither me nor imposter101 have ever specified the name of any of it's Commandants so you can choose a name for the doomed minor character. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 00:44, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

hey wats up? sorry i haven't been on lately. im glad to see the Crossing Path story is going well. Primarch11 22:24, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Supah. Could you please give me some feedback on the (small) article called Norimbrings? And maybe some ideas on their history and stuff? Regards, TardirProductions 22:26, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, if you get the chance, could see if the Solaris Federation page is starting to look better? Vivaporius 03:13, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry your head about it. I asked for critism, I got critism. All part of the process. Vivaporius 03:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I've dreamt up a brand new lot of (sonic based) weapons with your Derkallen in mind (as you said a while back that you were looking for more weapon ideas). I was just wondering if I am allowed make reference to all of your Xenos articles in the Resonant Amplification Weapons. I think you can work out the other reason for me making this article ;). A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:36, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they would be great for taking out heavy artillery as well as a few other things... A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:54, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Supahbad, considering the fact that I've almost completed my articles, what do you think of a soulless races of abhumans that were created by the Xai'athi? If you have any questions about details, just let me know. Vivaporius 05:57, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The Derkallen's New Toys
What do you think of these? I hope you like 'em. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 15:34, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Glad you like them. :D Also, what did you think of the bit about the Projector Array and Arlocrom? Does it fit his character? A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 15:41, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I just haven't had the inspiration until now to make a Xenos. What is funny though is that I dreamt up so many weapons for Syrath's Warriors but it wasn't until I began revising Waves and Frequencies I got the idea to expand upon the idea of Sonic Weapons. I do have plans for a Xenos, but I just can't bring myself to start a page for them yet. Also, will you be adding any more to Crossing Paths soon? or are we waiting for Primarch11 before we make a start on Chapter 2? A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 15:54, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh, I see. I also have plans for furthering my parts of the story. The only problem is that right now both of my characters (Syrath and Lorenzo) are tied to Primarch's characters (Bevid and Grim respectively) and I don't want to go on without his input, as it concerns both his characters. I think the best solution right now would be for you to post the beginnings of Chapter 2 (from Zeke's perspective) and I'll start to contribute again once Primarch11 returns. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 16:05, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing. I should be quite active on the site tomorrow so even if you can't get it done today it is no big deal. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 16:25, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Can I add to the Notable Covens part of the Derkallen? A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 18:34, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think of the Notable Covens ? I was at a loss for the last one but I'll try to think of something more interesting to write. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 16:19, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Glad you like it. And of course you need to add to it as you have a better idea of how the Derkallen should be than I do. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 16:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just read up on the Margos/Derkallen conflict... well written --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 01:44, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah looks pretty sweet, ill use your storyline and put a twist on it from the Margos point of view so we get both sides there --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 01:53, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it is, when I created them they were the first Xeno creation on here and the only one... good to finally have some enemies haha --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 02:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ive added the war to the Margos Page, check it out when u get a sec --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 03:34, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah wanted to give a twist to it, what'd u think of the bit of why the casualties were so high? the weaknesses the two races cause on each other? --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 03:39, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Same here, on another note... any articles uve noticed ill need to go nazi on? havent read all the new ones... and im not even touching the Solaris mess --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 03:44, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

The idea is founded and open for interpretation... just make it so there is a reason the imperium couldnt access the world during the crusade and it should be an interesting read --color="#001457">War within, War without, War unending 10:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Supahbadmarine

Thanks for the help on Warlord Skullark da 'eadcrusher i am updating it now.Dog of War 17/05/2011

Supahbadmarine

Can you tell me some tough charecters?

cheers Dog of War

Yeah, I just saw it there (I was probably using my iPod for editing when you left the message so I didn't get the little pop-up thing). Okay, I'll critique your idea. Xenos-Abhuman hybrids is a neat idea and the reason for it seems plausible as that is how you'd expect most Xenos to treat a weak intruder of their planet. It will be very interesting to see how you have the two species integrate with one and other though. ;D Good luck with the article Supah. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 22:06, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Supah, what was the name of those ork space pirates you told me about and what do they call their leader?Arcangle 14:05, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Canon Charectar please for an article on Warlord Skullark thanks Dog of War 18/5/2011

Supahbad, I truely need yor help. Appearently my node drive is terrible, so I need some advice. Could you please rewrite the node drive for me? I'm still looking for it to be fast, but want some weaknesses in it. If you get the chance, please save it. Vivaporius 13:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can you check out my canned Space Tuna please Supah? I could really do with some C&C. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 21:49, May 25, 2011 (UTC)



Do you remember that I said I'd draw a Derkallen a few months back? Well, I've had quite a bit of trouble trying to design them but today I felt quite inspired to draw a Dark Hybrid. Particularly it is Inquisitor Hectorus, aka Project Ω-001. I hope you like it. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 22:34, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can I add my Dark Hybrid drawing to the Purgatory Program page (as a representation of Inquisitor Hectorus? Also, I could design some kind of emblem for the PP if you want. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 01:13, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

from thegreatbeing

many thanks, i'll be sure to keep it touch.

R.O.M.
Read further, it's evolving( like the tyranids) so those who aren't captured and reprocessed get a new form of the gene.

Articles
Meh. I don't really care. It's not like I don't have an imagination. I'm writing a real book.It's only 153 pages long so far (curse my laziness) have had ideas for 6 video games, have ideas for several characters, and such and such. I'm just going to concentrate on the emperor's guard and the calaghi war story(Hope the signature was done correctly).bladiumdragon

hi been awhile, i read the blog, i don't really know what to do Primarch11 23:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

{thegreatbeing}

i know it seems unreal, but i really hate having characters die permenantly. some will die and then be reborn, like lazerous, others will transplant their concious after fatal wounding or interment within a dreadnought, and some will be kept in stasis. the numbers are a max of 10 for each type of warrior of that legion, excepting captains. stein as i said lost almost all his men, and Alexi was very succesful beacause all his marines were elites. Ajax and hismen were good at deception, so their numbers wouldn't be a problem, same for Grimm. Lupus had the most men during the heresy but needed desperate replenishing. oh and if anyone remembers the article Loyalists on this wiki, that's where reinforcment ideas came from. surely it couldn't have just been on istvaan?

well i was going to have Alexi being reincarnated, but that didn't sound very phenoix-like. lupus is interred in a heavily modofied dreadnought so he's techniclly dead, Photek's body is dead but hsi spirit lingered, shan has been killed 27 times, the first time he was later cloned from the dying body, Lazerous died and was then reborn (or i could have it 'occasionall reborn for short time') etc

Your Thoughts?
Supahbad, seeing as how your a Xeno expert, I wanted to get you opinion on a race called the Amara. I wanted to asked a while (about a month) back but forgot. Anyway, they were Xai'athi convicts that stole a warp ship, and tried to escape to the Imperium to join up with some other escapees. The warp drive malfunctioned, and threw them back about 50 million years, and somewhere in the Andromeda Galaxy (I was suppose to ask a long time ago). They settled down, built an empire, and lost it because of a slave revolt (could probably be tied to the race your looking for?). Most left for the Milky Way Galaxy, while some stayed behind to rebuild what wasn't conquered. Their advanced of course, could be psychic, but not what I'm looking for, and are holed up somewhere in the Andromeda galaxy. They still maintain a measure of powerf, but are stretched to the breaking point in a war with a coalition of races they once enslaved. Their weakness is their lack of numbers, with some 30 million left, while the other 100 million fled the galaxy.

I got the idea on a rainy day, so don't be suprised if your still scratching your head. Any other details you want, just ask.

I simply value your opinions on creating new species. You seem very good at that. That's all. Vivaporius 17:06, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Why thank you. But I'm open to anything ideas you have, fell free to share your thoughts whenever. Vivaporius 17:51, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. My idea wasn't clearly formed either, so don't be shy about it. ;) Vivaporius 19:28, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Andromeda
I found this picture while searching for a picture for my fanon sector, thought you might be able to find a use for it. No peace in the galaxy, only war.-Kirbycollin1 20:07, June 22, 2011 (UTC) Like like the Idea Supahbad. What was the name of that faction? My only statement about these guys is the fact that some of their fluff sounds like some of the Xai'athi's, but that's something else entirely. Vivaporius 00:24, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty then. When you finish with your Andromeda idea, feel free to contact me so we can work out any details. Vivaporius 01:48, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, sounds like a good plan. If I have any ideas i'll be sure to contribute. Vivaporius 02:48, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

if i may supah, i recall orks fleeing from the eldar on dawn of war and in the chasm on the crimson fists homeworld during the rynn's world incident

actualy squirrel22 is my other profile

Because I thought it was easier to login in using my facebook

hey im back and now that its summer ill have more time to do this. Im working on the next part of Crossing Paths. Primarch11 23:26, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Not really, although next week I'll be far from any internet access so I'm making the best of what time I have right now. I also just added some more to Crossing Paths that might be worth checking out. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 00:45, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

How are you for writing the final part of Chapter 4 in Crossing Paths? Because once that chapter is finished, the focus can change to Syrath's forces chasing the group and Bevid can be reintroduced, playing a larger role. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 13:14, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, what happened? It must be pretty bad if your stressed. Don't worry about finishing it today, I'll be gone for a whole week as of tomorrow, so it's no biggie. In fact it would give something to actually look forwards to upon my return to not-so-sunny Glasgow. Anyway, I hope your all right. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 13:32, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Something similar happened to me two years ago, during the severe (by U.K. standards) Winter our washing machine's pipes and our dishwasher's pipes froze. Unfortunately it also affected both of our downstairs sinks, clogging them and preventing effective drainage (for some reason the good ol' Victorian lead piping upstairs didn't crack, so at least we had a way of washing things). Well, I hope you can get everything fixed soon, as I know how much of a annoyance it can be. Best of luck with repairs, Cal. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 16:07, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

i just thought i let you know that the last part the Cal put in was when Zeke stepped in. Primarch11 17:24, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

maybe give them a bolt pistol/plasma pistol and power sword and Im sure it will be fine. Primarch11 22:00, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yo! I managed to find a location with Wi-Fi. Although I won't be able to reply again until Saturday (as the interenet service belongs to a cafe I'm visiting), so I'll give you the basics of what to add to the story. While on operations, Alicia wears ornate power armour, decorated in Inquisitorial decals of the Ordo Malleus as well as a large cloak which is used to hide the armour (and her general appearance). She is a Theta Level Psyker who is armed with a master crafted Force Sword and an Infernus Pistol. Lorenzo wears long Inquisitorial robes which cover his Carapace Armour. He is also armed with a Force Blade as well as a bolt pistol. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:09, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

what chapter does Barael come from? Primarch11 02:58, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

thanks and thats a good idea. Also I'm also done with my add in and I also put in some extra words at the end of your writing too. Another thing is that I made Zeke talk in my part too so you can see if it matches his character. If it doesn't feel free to make changes. I think when I'm done we should start working on chapter five. Primarch11 04:21, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Supahbad, I didn't want to take your attention away from your Andromeda project, but I wanted to ask you if you ever have the time if you could check out the House Veilleux page? Vivaporius 19:55, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

My Space Marine Chapter
Thanks for pointing to the guide. Would you like to hear my ideas for the chapter(s)? Vivaporius 02:25, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty. Let's see. Well, the Five Houses of Celeste (Veilleux, le Traître, la Croix, l'Ecorcheur, and Maître), built up a reputation of faithful service to the Emperor during the Great Crusade, and sent some of their own to assist the Emperor as Space Marines. When they discovered the Celeste Sector, the isolation that kept them seperate from the rest of the Imperium centuries at a time preventing reinforcements and supplies. Thus, they used their connections within the Adeptus Terra and Priesthood of Mars at the urging of Binadamu, to request permission for the founding of an Astartes chapter in their sector for protection. Their excellent track record, the dangers of their assignment, and Binadamu's psychic persuasion on the High Lords of Terra, led to the creation of the Lord's Chevaliers in 051.M32. From them, Binadamu influenced the chapter's leaders into dividing the chapter, and placing them under the command of the family they found themselves under, by use of their trade warrent, which Binadamu tampered with to lead Inquistors into believing the Emperor, now gone and without any real evidence to back up their suspensions, perhaps approved of the chapter's actions. By M41, the five chapters are part of a mututal alliance known as the Brotherhood of Celeste, which though not a single chapter, is much more of a military alliance in which the chapter's fleets work together, fight together, and fly similar(ish) flags and icons. For this reason, many in the Inquisition believe that the Brotherhood is the only Astartes force in the sector, far supassing the enforced limit of 1000 marines (having a membership of 5100). However, they fail to realize that fact that the Brotherhood is simply a blood pact that the five chapters adhear to, and the forge trade warrant defends the Brotherhood. Thus, while the Adeptus Terra and Mechanicus fully support the Brotherhood, the Inquisition is looking for any slip-ups, and are waiting for a reason to destroy the five chapters.

That's the gest of it. Sorry for the wall of text. Vivaporius 03:11, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you help me out with my most recent Blog Post. Just so that I can have some other respected member of the Wiki endorse the idea. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 00:16, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

I was looking to aquire your advice on how to make a good character, because frankly, I pretty sure my Binadamu article is going to burn in flames, and the Idrissa article has already gone overboard. Any advice for a budding writer? Vivaporius 00:15, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I recently came up with a story that would show his flaws to the Xai'athi people after an invasion by a race that he created, and nearly destroyed the Federation. Vivaporius 02:25, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I've been working on assembling a total of ten reasons as to why the Federation is slightly better than it's contempories, for my own personal reasons. I shall give you three of such reaons.

They are far more united than the Imperium, as they face the Imperium to the north, and the threat of the Amara (the extremely powerful children of Binadamu and Caria) who have been using their resources to form their own armies and empires. They share a single cause which is survival and prosperity.

Also they have members of several of races that came to the Federation for the one thing lacking in the galaxy, freedom. The Tau who don't agree with the "Greater Good", have found themselves able to make their own choices in Solaris. Eldar who want to experience more than the Paths given them travel to the Federation, and xenos under threat of extermination, flee to Solaris, and contribute to the Federation in unique ways (the Jokaero provide advanced miniturzation techiques, the Laer taught the Xai'athi better adaption metheods).

The Federation is considered better because it is isn't limited to single option like it neighbors. They're verstile, and unlike the Imperium's expand or die idelology, or the Eldar's run away and control everything from the other side of the galaxy, the Federation can fulfill many roles without being weakened in one area.

These some of the reasons the Federation, to me, is better than everyone else. They're flexible. Vivaporius 03:31, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely. I understand the "Only war" mentality of 40k, and play off that. The Laer were saved by the Federation before the Great Crusade arrived on their homeworld, the Jokaero fled to Solaris to escape Imperials who wanted their skills, the Rak'Gol were hired to protect the Federation as mended, and that is only their had, until the Federation and the Rak'Gol grew closer during the millineia, and the Stryite only ended up in the Federation as their saved the Akili agents on their homeworld, and were in return, spirited away from the Blood Angels who arrived later as thanks. The number of allies is more of a result of disperation by xenos looking for protections from the Imperium. The Federation had an anti-xeno policy before the Great Solar War believe or not.

Also, the Federation isn't too perfect. Each Xai'athi breed and subsequent race that joined the Federation, help make up for the defitincies in the Federation. The Awali are vulernable to sound and light, a failing that is filled by the Vashti. Also, the Nexusians were created to be the greatest psykers, but far short in numbers, while the Zverians are the super-soldiers of Solaris, but number only 300 million, and only few are capable of controlling their metabolism allowing them to partake in battle. The Federation is made up of several species who fill in the gaps, and make the Federation what it is.

Also, while I have considered to possiblities of making my own sci-fi series, I have no aspirations of doing so. I'm only 18, and don't need stress. But I thank for your compliment. Vivaporius 03:51, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Something I just want to mention. I always appreiate your advice. If it weren't for you (and many other members), the Federation would have been some omega-sized empire that destroyed the Imperium in three minutes. Vivaporius 04:05, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well thank you Supahbad. I appretiate it. Vivaporius 04:47, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I've already come up with backup plans. The Xai'athi, as mentioned in the article, traded with the Laer long before the birth of Slaanesh. The Thurians, the Federation farseers, saw the destruction of the Laer, and saved some of them. As for the Jokaero, the Federation discovered a Jokaero from the Imperium. Noting the lack of any real sentience, Federation scienists set about "fixing the problem", while maintaining the abilities of the Jokaero. They sucessed mostly, and gave the apes a language too. Vivaporius 07:33, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

As for the Rak'Gol, I simply thought they were awsome, and wanted them to be part of the Federation. I'll think of some thing for them. Vivaporius 07:40, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I've done my research on the Laer, and there is no indication that their tecnological advancements would have been changed after being corrupted by Slaanesh. Slaanesh had only been around for a few hundred years by the time of the Great Crusade. The Federation was suppose to have saved a number of them before the Fall of the Eldar, in which as you know, Slaanesh was born. So the idea that the Laer would have changed much after Slaanesh, though quite probable, is very slim. Consider the human cultists, would their technoloical progress jut "explode" just becuase they save a Chaos god? Doubtful. And this is such with Laer.

I don't know if explained this properly, so it's up to you to sort it out. Sorry. Vivaporius 15:58, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

As for the Jokaero, I was thinking of a story in which a Federation scienist discovers the abilities of the Jokaero, but find it difficult to control them. She summons the help of the government to hunt down and experiment of them, to make them into willing servents much like the Eldar. The Federation relizing the gains to be made by doing this, order the Bureau of Xeno Affairs to track down a small Jokaero fleet that recently passed through Federation space, and bring back as many Jokaero to Federation labs for experimentation. The Jokaero exceed in escaping the labs the first time, but are quickly recaptured by the Akili, who drag them back to the labs. After years of failures, and countless Jokaero lives, the Federation finally suceed in transforming the Jokaero into slaves.

That's all I have for now. Think of it this way, when the Federation sees a useful trait is another species, they try to force that species into genetic slavery (as with the trillions of Eldar slaves). This gives the Federation a huge dark side, and making the not generic good guys as with every sterotypical "federation" in a sci-fi theme. Tell me what you think. Vivaporius 16:08, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Supahbad, is it possible for Binadamu to have been a close friend of he Emperor before the Great Crusade? Vivaporius 20:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I will edit the Laer out later on. As for the apes. While genetic modification "could" impact the Jokaero's abilities, "could" mind you, one must take into consideration the 40,000 years of experience the Xai'athi have. They did manage to enslave one of the most advanced species in the galaxy. Vivaporius 03:23, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Message sent and recieved. No Jokaero. Vivaporius 03:49, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Except for the fact that that cool gadget is more or less designed for the Jokaero. Vivaporius 04:10, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Garganus Sector Campaign
I'm not entirely sure what they should be categorised as. Xenos Species (as they incorporate a mix of DNA, like the Sankari) is always a safe bet. And I imagine Tyranid and Kroot would be good categories to add the article to, other than that I'm not totally sure. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 22:20, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I've been talking to Imposter101 on DakkaDakka about The Employers and I was thinking about changing their origins slightly. So... would it be okay for me to include the Hellforger in their creation, almost as though they were among it's experiments (utilising the Chaos Gods) before it created the Child of the Gods. Thoughts? A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 00:32, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Supah, I've just finished working on the relationship between Binadamu and the Emperor. Could you look at it and tell me what should be changed if you get the chance? Vivaporius 17:29, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not suprised. If you take a look at the Solaris Federation talk page, you can clearly see some troll spreading his negativity around like the plauge. I'll be prepared for the worst. Vivaporius 17:50, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I read some intresting stuff on the 40k wiki, and it stated the existence of "Warp Shadows", or other realms of the Immaterium, where daemons may not exist. I'd like to exploit that for the Xai'athi, but I have a question. Would it be possible for the Xai'athi to have gods of their own, much like the Eldar? Vivaporius 00:32, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about the text wall, I do it all the time. Trying to work on that. Anyway, the Void, or Kukunja as the Xai'athi shall call it, will be were the Xai'athi have the most influence, where their gods (hopefully), will reside. I'll try to think of more concept for it. Here's a small example of what I've got.

--Brief Description--

The Kukunja is similar to the Warp, being one of it's many dimensions, though since it was influenced by a region that cared little for the Chaos Gods (Xai'athi, their Eldar servents, etc.), it has very few daemonic influences, and is thus rather calm in comparsion to the rest of the Warp. The Xai'athi gods, Asha (Awali), Izanagi, Izanami, and Amaterasu (Nokemono), and many of the gods born of the Xai'athi ancient myths and religions, reside in the Kukunja. WHen a Xai'athi dies, it goes to the Kukunja, drawn by their respective god(s), the saving them from the destruction that comes from falling into the clutches of the Chaos Gods of the Warp.

--End--

Tell me what you think. :D Vivaporius 01:56, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well since Izanagi and Izanami were the first japanese gods, I'll just stick with them. Vivaporius 02:03, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell me what you think of the renegades and gods section in the Xai'athi article? I don't know if I put to information in about the Xai'athi god I have up there, or if it's not enough. Vivaporius 13:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, their is a distinct lack of "typical" chapters on the site. The closet to "traditional" beliefs I can think of are Pre-Crusade Revenant Tigers (who were slightly humanitarian) and possibly the Golden Legion (which will happily sacrifice civilians to get kill their target). Also, I wouldn't actually want the PF to be involved purly because I'm sick of them. I need more people to take an interest in the Prophets of Destiny, cause I like my chaos guys more than the Inquisitorial lot. Have you noticed the subtle message within the PF's list of Tenets? ;). A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:15, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy for you to use the Revenant Tigers, as I have recently tried to make them more connected. As for the subtle message within the PF: look at the first word of Tenets 2, 3 and 4. It's sort of an ironic code. :) A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I can recall, Primarch mentioned that he was going to be on holiday somewhere that lacked Wi-Fi, so he could not post many more updates. However, that was almost a month ago and I believe he said he would only be gone for a week or a fortnight. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 15:57, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please take a look at the Floragans and tell me what you think. I have opted to make the Floragans a technologically advanced race, in order to avoid the prototypes from being too similar to the Vralgazi. I wanted to give them a unique "pantheon" of deities which they revere. Also, could the be enemies of the Mutacrat and the Vralgazi? Jackal Hyena 20:46, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well... My guesses are: the events take place during the Derkallen's Dark Space Campaign, when they tested the martial prowess of the galaxy (the Vorpus Sector Offensive to be precise). The marine high is the focus of the piece is Barael Tollock, future associate of a certain Rogue Trader. And, that given the overall results of the Vorpus Sector Offensive, the Revenant Tigers are going to suffer heavy losses (which is good as it adds more character to the chapter). This is all just a guess and I am looking forwards to seeing how the story develops, and of course it's conclusion. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 00:23, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah right, I'll need to keep waiting then to see how the story pans out. Yay, I guessed who it was. :) The Tigers could have been part of it as you mentioned in the "Beginning of the End" part if the page that the Chaos incursion happened in te Vorpus Sector, and you also mentioned that the RT were quite active within it. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 07:09, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I have seen your idea which I think is pretty sweet. I will talk more about it on the blog so everyone can see my comments. Bluebeard2 21:34, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Could you check out Viva's latest edits on the Xai'athi. Having his own gods for the psychic Awali is slightly bending the Canon (but is not NCF), but I'm not sure if Soulless beings (the Vashti) even have an effect on the Warp, and hence their Gods could not feasibly exist (and Soulless things generally are not huge fans of the Warp anyway). My knowledge of the Warp, while tenfold better than when I started on this site, does have it's limitations and I'm just not certain about this. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 22:51, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just read through the entire article again, and Viva states that they are "best known for being a fully pariah race with the exception of the Dementi". And just to make sure, I also read through each of the breeds. The ruling breed are extreme Pariahs, known as the Frei. Then the religious leaders are also Pariah's and so is the majority of the rest of the populous. The Dementi are a failed Vashti experiment to make Pariah resistant Psykers (which was marginally successful) with side effect of Psychosis. A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:10, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looking at Lexicanum, it states that Pariahs can still feel emotion (typically hate; self loathing etc. since people don't like being around them). And, this is the definition of a Pariah as stated on Lexicanum: "Pariahs, also known as blacksouls, psychic nulls and the Soulless, are entities that have no presence in the warp". Therefore, emotion would make little or no difference if they cannot actually affect the Immaterium. The reason that the Eldar inadvertently created Slaanesh was due to their heightened Psychic presence. Humanity, overall, is able to feed Chaos due to the fact that the race is gradually starting to have a greater presence in the Warp (save the handful of Pariah's). Blanks on the other hand, while not as powerful as Pariah's (and may or may not carry the gene) may have some Warp presence as they merely block Psychic powers. Unlike Pariahs, their is no definitive cause for their anti-Psyker abilities so it would be impossible to genetically engineer a race of Blanks, while it is theoretically possible to forcibly breed a race of Pariahs.A Shadow Before the Dawn My Talk 23:43, August 30, 2011 (UTC)