Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-30488984-20180630192929/@comment-30488984-20180702095346

Ahhh, those are not things I had taken into consideration: the Emperor's Tarot, the specialized Librarians, nor the modified Astartes vessels. Also, the very technology they posses, as Remos points out in the case of Titan, would give credence to their ability to travel at much higher speeds and more accuracy than almost any other force in the Imperium. All this would make a lot of sense regarding their ability to 'predict' and counter Daemons. That definitely gives me a good overall answer regarding the Grey Knights and their ability to answer calls to arms and deal with Daemons in reasonable time.

As for the list, he does cite his sources and while I have read some pretty crazy things about Astartes, there are a number of feats that seem quite outlandish, perhaps from older lore that I am not acquainted with. Two examples being the Astartes being able to smack aside a bolter round with his hand and an Astartes being capable of moving 10 meters in a heartbeat.

I agree, Astartes are often poorly portrayed and are often seen as the "Line Infantry" of the Imperium by many (especially due to games like Dawn of War) but all too often are also seen as Gods on the battlefield who can do things that seem to defy the very nature of physics itself. Obviously they are Gods compared to standard humans when it comes to combat but there is a limit, I think.

Something that I have been thinking about is how the Emperor intended the Astartes to be soldiers to fight against xenos and non-compliant humans. This is the reason why the Deathwatch doesn't require a whole host of psykers in its host but simply 'standard' Astartes. They are masters of standard warfare and unmatched by most enemies, as we see in almost every source, but I think that when it comes to daemons, they should honestly be no match unless they are wielding unique equipment, are psykers, or are the very best of all Astartes in martial prowess. They weren't intended to be 'daemon-killers' by the Emperor but to be the soldiers to conquer the galaxy and hold the Imperium from xenos and humans.

You guys think that is a fair conclusion?