User talk:KuHB1aM

Hi, welcome to Warhammer 40,000 Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:KuHB1aM page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Blade bane (Talk) 00:14, 19 July 2009

Hey
Hey there, I am going to try to see if I can fix up a set of site colors soon, but I dont know what colors to set. I myself dont play warhammer, so if anyone asked you randomly, what do you think warhammer 40k's main colors would be?

Lol. I don't play 40k either. Just here to write. Honestly, I haven't a damn clue what some good colors would be. Maybe Run4 has better ideas. KuHB1aM 11:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

RP is up. The Fires of Heaven. Post your faction before posting in the RP. //--Run4urLife! 12:07, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

The Unforgiven
Space Marines don't act as mercenaries. Ever. Not even Chaos Marines, and they're a lot less picky about their work than Imperials. //--Run4urLife!My Talk 20:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I know I read somewhere about a renegade chapter that acted as mercenaries. Of course, I gotta look it up. KuHB1aM 20:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: Found it. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Damned_Company_of_Lord_Caustos KuHB1aM 20:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As Chaos Marines, they'll have their own agenda. Mercenaries fight for money. For Chaos Marines, credits are usually only a bonus on top of whatever else. That's inaccurate. //--Run4urLife!My Talk 20:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Dammit! For everything I research, you seem to have a counter-measure of some kind. Fine, Chaos Marines it is. KuHB1aM 20:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Even though I haven't played in years, I've delved a lot deeper into the background than any gamer I know. When it comes to Space Marines, Chaos or otherwise, I'm a well of knowledge. //--Run4urLife!My Talk 20:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I kinda noticed. It's like you created Warhammer 40k or something. KuHB1aM 20:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Finding background material was easier than travelling for an hour to play a stranger. Getting into the Specialist Games helped with that too. They usually have a more focused background than the mainstream games. //--Run4urLife!My Talk 20:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

You seem to have an endless amount of knowledge. KuHB1aM 20:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Page 2 of this document has some useful information on how Space Marines work. //--Run4urLife!My Talk 20:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for teh information. If my computer wasn't be so much of a dick right now I could read it, lol. KuHB1aM 21:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

That Space Marine Painter
Is EPIC!!!! Thanks for the pointer! //--Run4urLife!My Talk 23:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Any time, brah. KuHB1aM 23:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I told you about itVegas adict 07:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, dude. Then I saw the 5.0 version, where I proceeded to tell Runner about it. KuHB1aM 10:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Kuh could you make a picture of a marine for my artical Angels Of The Night Minner99 12:15, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, I couldn't draw even if I tried, haha. Check out this link; it'll help you alot more than I ever could, lol. KuHB1aM 12:17, October 11, 2009 (UTC) http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?s=6b3d4e72e4c11b40006f11e75faeba34&autocom=pages

I meant using bolter and chainsword Minner99 12:23, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

how do you save them so i can put them on the wiki Minner99 11:20, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I just save them to my computer and upload them afterwards. //--Run4My Talk 11:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, just save and upload them on your computer. Sorry I never made the pictures myself; I didn't even see that latter part about you wanting me to do them. KuHB1aM 20:19, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

RP
Thanks, but no thanks. In case you know I have never played Warhammer nor read any of the books, and so it would be kind of hard for me to understand all that stuff. Dark seer is slowly teaching me the basics, but until then I will only be able to create basic articles which dont make me put too much canon in them. Thanks anyway though.

Members
Yeah, thats what happens when you put the address on Wargamer.com.au and BoLS lounge (Man it's comfy)

Lol nice work, brah. *Fist-Bump* KuHB1aM 00:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Kuh!
I've already spoken to Blade Bane about this, my chapter was removed from records which is why it's not shown in canon yet. Plus it states in plenty of Black Library books (and in Wikia 40k) that not all of the Second Founding Chapters are known and many could have died out. As for all chapters requireing a Primarch... tell me who the Blood Ravens Primarch is and i'' reward you with a point. *lol* Seriously though, I'm stretching canon, but not breaching it. --Dante Solablood 23:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I'll definitely look forward to the feedback, though tying everything to strictly to canon that this is less of a fanon site and more of a plaguerism site (just copying or abusing the existing material) seems a little harsh, especially when people put a lot of work into their Chapters. I am planning on making my chapter more inline with this sites rules once things have been looked through. --Dante Solablood 23:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thats no hassle! I don't want to cause any trouble, but I'd moved it straight from one wikia to another without any edits so it's going to be a little rough right now. Feel free to make suggestions or have a chat anytime, I'm always pottering about or working on ideas. ^_^ --Dante Solablood 23:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh yer cool, at least I got to know someone pretty dang quick!! Plus after some chats with Run4, I think I have an idea for my Chapter that might just work. Originality is hard work sometimes. *sigh* Oh and I love to RP, but not tonight.. need sleep! *wanders off in a daze... straight into a lamp-post* --Dante Solablood 01:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

It's ok, brah, I haven't posted recently either. Take your time. I have another editor to set straight about the 2nd Founding, lol. KuHB1aM 01:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

--Dante Solablood 01:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * lol* I saw that as I was chatting with Run4 at the time. I think the sooner I edit mine, the less likely other people will make the same mistake. If you want to see the ideas for my chapter BTW you can read the in Run4's talk under 'caught a bullet with my face'. How do you make the "posted by do not edit" banner?

The Template is. //--Run4My Talk 02:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Lost primarchs
I'll try and do that, what really ticking me off though is the fact they are arguing, they were deleted from records! so just saying that they are 1st founding is non-canon friendly! even if it's not true!

You know what? i think i may work some admin magic, but first we need to tell BB that i am not a canon nazi and that i'm not holding a grudge, seriously he is accusing me of that! grr Damn halo fans. I am the founder and i WILL take control. Also, how would you like admin status to combat shit like this

thanks, BB keeps bringing the halo fanon for arguments, it's REALLY disorganized and not canon friendly. thats his argument, i don't think he understands halo and warhammer 40,000 are two different things

Also you can start the missing primarch community project, make it an ideas page named "Missing legion idea page" make it a blog or fourm, that is ideas only. there we can come with names, battle-type Primarch founding, how they went missing Etc. color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 01:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Epic, just one though. my work is law. Grr color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 01:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Adminship
You now have admin rights. Merry christmas. Try not to misuse them, and try your best. I can add your record to the admin list tomorrow, because I am smashed from lack of sleep. Cheers.

I mainly reverted the edit due to the wording being off. I intended to return the rule when I had time, but I needed to get to sleep as I have my soccer grand final today. I have to leave in an hour, so I will work on better wording now.

stuff it you XD
i know i got lots of work to do, but as for the legion bit, i'm not sure, i'll go over loads of info and check if there were more than 20 legions, cause if you think "cover-ups" lol they happen all the time. and if you look at the other wiki, the hell knights and others, there are many valid reasons for a legion to go missing, run it past dark seer, i think, see what he thinks of my "more than 20" legions theory. but as a i said, i'll look it up...untill i get a certain answer i'll edit it to chapter..wait.. i need a first founding to success, hmm...out. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 05:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

fixed the faults...yea, faults
cleaned up the chapter page a bit, if i've done it right, give me meh :) if not, angry e-mail! XD --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 06:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

This heavans on fire...
Hey in the RP is it okay that i just tore ferrox's armo off? it is a few steps down from killing half your chapter aftter all XD color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 12:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

It's called a power fist mate, look into it. LoL

True, but in the RP i never said anyones name, i just felt like pulling some ones arm off. so it can be any legionare color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 12:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, did you know if you go to your user page and then widgets (next to blog etc.) and select top referes you can see all the sites this site is on? it's pretty damn epic color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 12:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

It's a Crush Attack with a Power Fist. Look it up in the Inquisitor Rules. It inflicts a similar amount of damage to being thumped with a Power Claymore (Frostblade in the Rulebook, but Power Claymore sounds better). //--Run4My Talk 12:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

What? so any chaos lord is not good evil enough for you? jks, anyway, don't worry about BBs ravaged, i turned it from halo fanon to 40k fanon, he really wanted 1st RP but runny beat him to it XD, but seriously, its moore 40k now, think of this: Nids+Chaos+admantium=ohhhhhhhhhhh shit color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 12:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

don't worry. i'll make it, i'm out 4 now (shame i can't thing of any Run 4 your life jokes...)color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 12:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Robotic Chaos Tyranids? Holy shit thats like a velociraptor on rollerskates with a jetpack and scissors! Anyway, I've got an idea for an Inquisitor-based RP later on sometime. Force people to think with their brains instead of their trigger fingers. //--Run4My Talk 12:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Then can we be the brawn? The Inquisitor needs some lee-way, ya know. KuHB1aM 13:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. The PCs will all be Inquisitors, and it won't be a war thing. In short, you won't get far running around in Power Armour shooting everything. You may in fact be lynched. Likewise if you run around flaunting your psychic powers (if you have any). //--Run4My Talk 19:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

What about Imperial Guardsmen as body guards? KuHB1aM 20:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Would you bring a shell-shocked Veteran who had survived when thousands died around him everywhere with you while you were trying to expose a Chaos Cult or Genestealer Cult? Sure, he'd be handy for breaking a few heads, but not all that useful otherwise. And there's gonna be a lot of double-talk and spy-type stuff. A foul-mouthed psychopath is likely to be mugged by any number of Inquisitors (all powerful people). Also, fancy weapons are likely to draw attention, so waving a Bolt Pistol at every opportunity would be inadvisable. //--Run4My Talk 20:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

What about a simple rookie assigned from the local Imp Guard Reg? KuHB1aM 23:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What would an Inquisitor want with a Rookie? //--Run4My Talk 23:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, he'd just be assigned to him to assist with stuff. KuHB1aM 23:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Inquisitors are above every authority. They don't have people assigned to them. They cherrypick whoever the hell they want. //--Run4My Talk 23:42, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Jesus, give me a break! Alright, surely there must be some alotted type of character besides an Inquisitor? KuHB1aM 23:45, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not for a PC. Also, you seem to have got the wrong end of the stick with regards to Inquisitors. They're more than capable of holding their own depending on their situation, I'm just aiming for something that requires more than the muscle memory of pulling a gun and performing a double-tap. //--Run4My Talk 00:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

*Sigh* Fine... KuHB1aM 00:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

They're drawn from all walks of life, and no two are the same. Read up on the Inquisitor fluff material on GW's website. It's all in PDF form in the Inquisitor resources in the Specialist Games section. There's also a link I posted to a load of other PDFs on Dark Seer's talk page. //--Run4My Talk 00:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I had an idea for this RP about a local Arbite who'd been inducted into one of the Inquisitor's retinues as a sort of local liason. It's an idea I intend to use, though, so screw you Kuhblam, get your own >:D --Solbur 03:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Suppose the Arbites is a new angle, but no playing the muscle in an Inquisitor's retinue. I want people flexing grey matter before biceps here. //--Run4My Talk 12:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Great... I can't even bench press with my brain... KuHB1aM 12:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, there will be gunfights, but there'll be more intrigue going on than usual. In some cases, kicking down doors and shooting people might work. In others, if you do that you may as well lay down and zip up the body bag yourself. //--Run4My Talk 12:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, why don't we just use cyclonic torpedos and finish off all those bastards at the same time along with the planet? Problem solved. KuHB1aM 13:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And alert cult workings on other planets? Smooth move. Good job breaking it hero! //--Run4My Talk 13:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Why don't we bomb all the planets then? That oughta work! 14:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, kill billions for the sake of a single investigation. That won't have you excommunicated and attacked by other Inquisitors at all. Things are rarely as simple as people think. It's not all "run in and shoot the genestealers!", there's a lot of other stuff to do. Expose the cult, then shoot everyone. //--Run4My Talk 14:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

So make the most of the indiscriminate shooty-shooty now, while Fires of Heaven lasts. I'm quite looking forward to all this scheming lark, personally. --Solbur 14:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Woohoo. One on board. But yeah, there will be gunfights, but not large-scale war unless I say so. //--Run4My Talk 14:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Theres allready been an arbites in an inquisitors retinue.Godwyn Fischig was an arbites who served as part of Eisenhorns retinueVegas adict 20:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that Vegas, I did play Inquisitor fairly regularly. What I meant was playing from the Arbites outside the Inquisitor's Retinue's POV. //--Run4My Talk 23:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, bombing the entire system easily fixes- *Stops whilsy Alistair wags his finger, makes motions to crush Kuhblam* Ok, I guess we can expose the cult first. KuHB1aM 00:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The Argent vanguard... again
err, yea. done a bit more "ajusting" to my chapter.. the thing is, i can't really find anything thta looks like it needs editing to me, the back story of the chapter makes sense in my mind, and everyone i've asked. ideas, please. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what i can do...
got the message, even if it was a bit late, i'll see if there is any more i can ajust... --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:18, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ravaged Blah Blah blah
Ravged recordings is no longer part of my roleplay so contact BB color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 00:04, September 14, 2009 (UTC) Its during the heresy, before the siege of terra but after Istvaan V color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 23:47, September 14, 2009 (UTC) Yup color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 00:43, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but imperials seams to be, oversized at the moment, some chaos marines would be nice, i know jackie is taking them but a few reinforcements would be nice. color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 01:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Chapter_Master_Bolshack_Wildhammer/Argent_Vanguard
Do you know how to turn my chapter's page page to a actual chapter page, instead of a addon to my profile page? if you do, please do it. its getting annoying --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 11:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC) >.>

I'll do it later. Just keep updating your article. KuHB1aM 11:56, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

update?
update to what? i've done everything you advised...--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:34, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Little help please
Hey, would you mind looking over my page and pointing out flaws? The main section I'm concerned about is the 'fleet' section as I really have no idea how large a space marine fleet is normally so I'm guessing and making that part up as I go without a lot of reference. I know there are some grammar and spelling things I need to go through and fix, but I'll get to them after the initial draft is completed. Thank you :)

KuHB1am. why the hell are all the admins assholes appart from you? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 12:49, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Here you go... http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Chapter_Master_Bolshack_Wildhammer/Argent_Vanguard --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 13:08, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

is it ok if i delete the messages regarding what i've already changed on my chapter's page? it would help me if i could. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 13:49, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why not. It's your talk page. KuHB1aM 13:56, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

thank you--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 13:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Misc admin tools
Since I see you have learnt the most common admin tools, here are the smaller scale misc ones. They aren't really useful and you probably already know of them, but they might help sometime.

Tags report - Still playing with this, if I can get it to work properly it will display groups of NCF templates, delete templates ect.

Unwatched Pages - Dont think this has any practical use, but you may be able to use it to see if anything suspicious is going on.

Deleted user contributions - What it's name suggests. Later on it may be used to review sockpuppets and vandals.

Upload multiple files - This can be extremely helpful to large projects. Saves inconvenience.

Import pages - I myself have no need for it. You may need it sometime though.

View and restore deleted pages - This is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! I can not stress this enough, you will be able to see admin mistakes, restore previous versions of things, and see if something was not meant to be deleted.

Thats about it. You may or may not use them, but eh.

Thanks for the heads up, BB. KuHB1aM 20:13, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Hey there.
Hi, thanks for the warm welcome. You're certainly the first. Well I did actually have a question. Do you know where I would post quotes for a Chaos Witch?

No prob. If you check the Quotes section on the sidebar of any page, you can open a sub-menu, where there'll be an option called "More". I believe you'll find a Chaos Quotes article where you can add quotes for your character. KuHB1aM 21:25, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I see it...and your second post. Thanks again for the help. I'll be sure to sign my posts from now on. CodexusRhodes 21:45, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I do have another question. On the character pages, is there a set code for the content boxes on the far right with their information in it? CodexusRhodes 23:47, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

As in formatting? Here's an easy way; I suggest for your article that you copy and paste my Golden Legion infobox (just click to edit the page and copy the code) and edit it to your liking. Typing out the code for the infobox is a bit tedious, and it'll save on time. KuHB1aM 23:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude, it's been a while! Sorry, but I've had loads to do recently and haven't had time to do the hard work of bringing my army into canon. Well I've edited a few of the questionable sections (though they all need expanding on), which should hopefully show the direction I'm going in.

If you get the chance, could you have a quick looksey for me? Plus I need a bit of help... can't seem to get rid of that 'WIP' warning at the top of the Fulcrums Fallen page now. *sigh* ^_^ --Dante Solablood 02:43, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Your luck, bro; I got home early. I'll give it a look-see after I check Bolshack's page again, since I think he asked me to check it awhile ago. KuHB1aM 12:11, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Fanfiction e-magazine
I'm thinking about starting a fanfiction e-magazine; if I ever get it off the ground, would you be interested in contributing or subscribing?

It being fan fiction, I couldn't charge or pay you anything.

Sorry if this may seem noobish, but what is an e-magazine? Is it online? KuHB1aM 10:45, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

It's short for Electronic-magazine, like e-mail is short for Electronic-mail; it basically means it's over the internet.

Hi mate; you expressed an interest in the fanfiction magazine I'm putting out; if you want to subscribe, you should do it quick, because the first issue is going out on the 15th.

I don't want to be pushy, but I don't want you to miss out on something you might enjoy.--Jochannon 12:06, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

M52
Ok. sorry if i went a bit far forward. i just wanted to give you guys the impression of the chaos of a future that my chapter came from --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:44, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

It's ok, I don't think I can let it slide anyhow. We don't we to go that far, or past M.41 for that matter. KuHB1aM 21:46, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

fair enough, but the timeline is at........hang on, lets see... 995 999.M41, thats right at the end before M42--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:48, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Just deleted the article. Sorry. But maybe you can make one titled M.41 that details events in your Chapter only. KuHB1aM 21:48, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

can i make a "ajusted" m41 timeline. to show the battles the events the fannon wiki chapters have taken part in??

I'd say hold off on it for now; maybe later. KuHB1aM 21:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

ok. i'll put the main M41 events on it too. add what your chapter's done aswell, if you have one.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:53, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I've got two, lol. KuHB1aM 22:04, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

all the better --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:10, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

This Wiki's account of M41 "The Time of Ending"
like the title? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:21, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds sexy. KuHB1aM 00:09, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

err >.> i think not... --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 18:04, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Prehaps we should do somthing like we did back on the fallout fanon wiki with the timeline?Vegas adict 18:25, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I've already started, so no worries. Once its up just add events/ battles/ other crap your chapters/necrons/orkz/ have been in on the talk page, give me the time it happens and i'll add it on the main page --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 18:32, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Bolshack, I agree with Vegas. If you saw that timeline, it was truly a site to behold. KuHB1aM 19:32, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

yea, but in the 40k timeline, for each event, theres alot of info, more than on the fallout game. and +, fannon events, and wiki events dint happen at the same time like they do on the fallout wiki. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:40, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

so if we used vegas' one, in each box i'd have to put. 744.M41, 745.M41, 746.M41 ect. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, we'd help. KuHB1aM 19:52, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather it stayed the way it is atm, i like it, and it's clear and makes sense. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:55, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Noted. But I think we may change it. Stand by, Bolshack. KuHB1aM 19:59, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

just tell me how to delete it, thats your wiki's code for when they say "may change it"--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 18:53, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, Bolshack, it means move it to another title. As in using the Move tool. So don't think we're gonna speak in code or anything. If we wanted it gone, we'd just say "Yeah, we're going to delete it". //--Run4My Talk 18:59, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

How can you change it from "this wiki's account of M.41 "the time of ending" to something else, when that's EXACTLY what it is?? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:05, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it's a boring title. //--Run4My Talk 19:08, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

and Vegas' is better? bollocks. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yea, and i'll be adding Azeroth's PDF to the page soon, the "Azerothian Warlords", bought the first squad today--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Vegas' is actually a timeline. Yours is a timeline too. Not an account. And if you're gonna get snotty over this, I think action might just have to be taken. Take that however the hell you want to. As for the Warlords, hopefully they'll be original and imaginative. I'm looking forward to the finished product. //--Run4My Talk 19:15, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

that reminds me, whats the difference between a account and a timeline? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:18, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * A timeline is a list of events and the dates upon which they occurred. An account is a story. //--Run4My Talk 19:19, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

K. how do i change names? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:19, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * The Move function. It's on the same toolbar as Edit and Watch, up near the top right. //--Run4My Talk 19:22, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

ok. thats something i dont have a problem in the galaxy doing, but one thing, my azeroth webpage its-self. do you think the space marines of M.52 would go back in time if the tyranids were winning regardless of what would happen to their time? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:27, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * You're just missing the point that it isn't a case of would or wouldn't, they can't. //--Run4My Talk 19:34, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

what if it was an accidental time travel when they go to warp to engage a large hive fleet? --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:35, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's about as likely as the Emperor getting up off the Golden Throne and declaring himself a Champion of Chaos. An entire Chapter is far more likely to just die or get lost in the Warp than be sent back in time and coming out intact. And anyway, it's a terrible cliché. And doesn't fit into the 40k universe. You're looking for an excuse to keep something that's not gonna be let on anyway. //--Run4My Talk 19:38, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

well the emperor'll be lost to us soon enough, considering the golden throne cant be repaired. K, i'll try to see if theres any way. but Azeroth's PDF stands?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:42, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Most planets have a PDF. If it's another WoW ripoff, I will not be happy. //--Run4My Talk 19:44, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Theres no such thing in wow Ooniverse as the azerothian warlords, the name just sounded cool. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:49, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. You can rip something off in more ways than just the name. //--Run4My Talk 19:49, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

well if thats the issue, i based them off the cadians, the Cadian guardsmen models work well for my guys too. --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:51, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. //--Run4My Talk 19:53, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

the only issue i have is that i'll need to dig up some info on the cadians before making an official page for my guards.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:55, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

god i hate Vegas, he didnt even ask if it was ok with you guys to make a timeline. Any chance the golden Leigon might be able to "take him out"?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:28, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Bolshack, but no matter how much you dis-like Vegas or don't approve of him, I can't send 1000 of the Imperium's finest Space Marines to hunt down and execute him. Or try to remove him, if that's what you actually meant. KuHB1aM 12:10, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Mainly because he'd get his men killed by mineVegas adict 12:12, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I smell a duel in the making... KuHB1aM 12:14, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

No contest,The steel fists rock!Vegas adict 12:15, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oooooh Bolshack, he callin' you out, son! KuHB1aM 12:16, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

hmm, lets see.1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th,7th ,and 9th companies of the argent vanguard and the Azerothian warlords 23rd, 42nd, 38th, 11th and 1st, no contest, the only time you might win is it a genestealer infested space hulk crash landed on my side of the battle field--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 13:04, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Against an entire Chapter? Bolshack, you'd lose. //--Run4My Talk 14:59, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

how can i lose when i have my spartans with their 2+ save and their WS 5, and wheit BS of6?, especially when every battle company has 2 spartan squads.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 15:17, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * What? Whoa, another ripoff from other media? That's gotta go, or I'm deleting the Argent Vanguard. And now, another question, how the hell did they wind up with stats like that? //--Run4My Talk 15:23, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also bolshack my chapter is based on a forge world with at least three titans permenantly based there.In apocalypse one reaver titan is more than capable of demolishing more than twice its point cost in one turnVegas adict 19:24, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

i havent had chance to play apocalypse yet, want to soon though.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Spartans
1. I called them spartans cause i found some stuff on a random site about sparta, and i thought they'd make great marines. and they have those stats cause they have extra implants and extra training.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:07, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

thx for the "ajust" to the timeline, i could've sworn i mentioned your chapter in the earlier piece i did--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:41, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

It's ok, don't worry about it. KuHB1aM 23:43, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

got any other events you want me to add? post them on the timeline's talk page along with the date, need a first talk page posting ^^--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, why not. I'm kinda busy right now, but I'll post something later. KuHB1aM 23:47, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

ok, Run4's complaining about my spartan marines and my proto-type jetbike :C --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Complaining? I'd call it putting forward canon info and common sense. //--Run4My Talk 05:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * And he has A LOT of that. color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 09:40, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

What's all this malarkey about Spartans? I better not see any jolly green giants. KuHB1aM 20:24, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's a pull from 300 this time. //--Run4My Talk 20:32, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Well, the 300 is quite possibly a gross exaggeration, but we can't really act against that. Although there's a movie about 300, it's rooted in mythology and possibly fictional history, so he's clear. KuHB1aM 20:51, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 300 the film. It's other media. The real thing, it did happen, but they used tactics, not masses of asskick, and wore heavy armour. //--Run4My Talk 20:53, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ooooh I thought he was using the history aspect. Oh well, can't have copyright infringement, now can we? KuHB1aM 20:57, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Or rips from other media. //--Run4My Talk 21:00, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

True dat, bra. KuHB1aM 21:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't that he same ting? color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 21:51, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * They are in Bolshack's case anyway. //--Run4My Talk 21:52, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
What the hell man!!!! whats with going and deleting my pages??? Put it back please

On the same note and due to your reasoning for deleting the page, are you going to go and delete the Commander Maximus Dercius Vex and Sergeant Major Deacon "Phillips" Coletrane pages?? Please let me know why there is a double standard here and why that deletion if there is no rule to say that? --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 11:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

I deleted the Shadow Legion because it was NCF and I had told you numerous times to change was basically a mary-sue space marine copy off that I had warned you about, Mr. Whoever Doesn't Sign His Posts. We don't allow that crap here, and I warned you numerous times. NoFuryLikeMine, those pages are not NCF, were not warned, and follow canon. Your point is irrelevant. KuHB1aM 20:10, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Cold justice??????????????--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:12, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

You can call it whatever you want. I sent him numerous messages on his articles talk page, and I'm pretty sure I also sent him a message on his talk page. KuHB1aM 20:14, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Yea, thats cold justice, i added another event on the timeline, where yours, mine, and some other guy's chapter is founded in 001.M32 i think it was.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:17, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for letting me know. KuHB1aM 20:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

oh. and Run4 says that my chapter's star system is a High-priority system. check his talk page if you want to check ^^--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:23, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * I said it looked like an important little place, what with it's Forge World and a Space Marine Homeworld. But then, compare that to systems like the Necromunda, Agripinaa and Armageddon Systems. //--Run4My Talk 20:33, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

finally, your back, and your exact words were "looks like a High-priority system". answered the question about the M23?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:37, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

like the timeline so far?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:24, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Looks good.

Got any events to add? I'm just scouring the articles for now for Dated events.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:27, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Nah, not right now, anyway. KuHB1aM 22:39, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

got any ideas on how big my chapter's fleet should be?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:46, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

3 battle barges, about 9-12 strike cruisers. KuHB1aM 22:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

any ideas for names?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:50, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Have a look over Chapters on Lexicanum, and then take a gander at some of the Chapters on here. //--Run4My Talk 22:52, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

ok. thanks--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:03, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Kuhblam. maybe on yours you should mention a battle involving my Azerothian Warlords regiments and your Bespin Brigadiers, maybe against orks.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:54, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, why not. I'll write some stuff up later. KuHB1aM 23:55, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

K, the Azerothian Warlords regiments involved will be, lets think, *Glances over at another page* the 34th, 38th, and 101st, they've been through a few good battles relatively un-scathed.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:00, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sure. The Bespin Brigadiers are a single Regiment rather than several under the same banner, so we'll be a bit more centralized and less in number. KuHB1aM 00:04, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think ur a little lost Kublahm, im talking bout my Inquisitor page, there was not a single message on it (being only 2 days old) you havent deleted any other pages of mine, make sure you check first before you say you sent multiple messages to ME when none of my pages have issues --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 00:04, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

P.S Shadow Legion was not mine --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 00:06, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

IRC Channel
Do you have an account on the IRC? Because if you do, get on now and I will give you ops. I need to give it out to all of the admins. Peace.

Ops? What's that? And I can't get on IRC right now; going to be bed a bit early tonight. KuHB1aM 01:12, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ops is channel operator. It means I need to make you a channel admin.

is it possible for a chapter to have a 4th, purpose built battle barge for, err... destroying tyranid hive ships?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:35, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, ok, and I'd stay away from a fourth one, Bolshack... although I think it's actually ok; haven't heard anything against it. KuHB1aM 10:39, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i'll just keep the name for now, just incase. It says a normal chapter fleet comprises of 3 battle barges on the lexicanum, but my chapter was forced to increase in response to Hive Fleet Chimera's sudden arival in the galaxy.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 10:42, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't see what's wrong with keeping an extra ship after the threat has been finished... KuHB1aM 10:47, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

should we run it through run4 to check? i'm at school atm so i'm not sure if i'll have time --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 10:48, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Some Chapters have more, some have less. I was contemplating adding another Battle Barge, or Emperor forbid, another Ramillies . . . the Tigers being a Space-bound Crusading Chapter a la Black Templars (not as big as the Templars - those nuts are between 5 and 6 times the size a Chapter's supposed to be, they're just all over the gaff, so it's hard to keep track of them, and they'd be wiped out if they weren't so huge). //--Run4My Talk 12:11, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Lol... maybe I should put the Luna Dragons on an eternal Crusade... KuHB1aM 20:11, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

So you shall help me make harvest less halo-y?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:31, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Um, well, yes. The only thing you really need to change is the names. Otherwise, it's fine. Hundreds of planets probably have a similar story in W40k minus the First Contact thing, which you should probably take out since it's not stated when Humanity first comes into contact with sentient life outside of Terra/Earth. KuHB1aM 22:35, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

good, do you think it would be possible for chapter master aldeus cutter of the Wolves of harvest, to be a distant decendant to captain james gregory cutter. of the Spirit of fire?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:42, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Space Marines are not related to any mortal. The only way he could be a direct descendant was if Aldeus was from Cutter's blood-line and was somehow selected as a candidate for Indoctrination into the Wolves of Harvest, keeping his surname in the process. KuHB1aM 00:06, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

OR an indirect descendant, like if they had a bro/sis, they could still be descended from the same family. color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 09:07, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Well yeah, but you get my point. KuHB1aM 11:42, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

no, i mean direct, albeit distant discendant.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:35, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

i've changed every name on the harvest page except james cutter (cause he's chapter master cutter's ancestor) and spirit of fire (cause thats captain cutter's ship, i dont see a problem in it being a different class of ship though)--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:37, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

and it does say that captain cutter had a daughter (who could be chapter master cutter's great great great great etc. grandmother)--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:39, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, he does. She was protected by Sergeant Forge, whose name you should not use if you want to follow their story in the most not-like-their-story way possible.

if thats true then it should be highly plausible that my chapter master is captain cutter's decendant, correct?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 20:23, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I suppose... except Cutter's daughter was a lot younger than Forge at the time... KuHB1aM 21:21, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Who mentioned forge? not me -.- --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:32, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Forge was an integral part to that story. That's why I mentioned him. KuHB1aM 21:36, October 21, 2009 (UTC) Apparently, it won't be as easy to dodge Halo-related stuff with Kuh as it was with me. If he's an important part of both stories, the Halo one and your 40k one, it needs a change, otherwise it's just a plain ripoff. //--Run4My Talk 21:40, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

who said he was part of the wh40k one? the page, harvest m15, doesn't even mention him once... -.- --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:43, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

the only actual person i've mentioned by name in the article was vice admiral john sheppard(for some completely ranomd reason), and captain cutter--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:45, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Uh, ok. KuHB1aM 21:48, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

i dont even know why john forge came up, i only mentioned captain cutter's daughter as a link to my chapter master cutter.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:48, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I only mentioned Forge because he was a part of that story. You don't have to include his re-named counter-part at all. KuHB1aM 21:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

well considering i only put in captain james gregory cutter cause he was captain of the spirit of fire, i dont see any reason to mention sergeant forge, in any of my articles.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:52, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say you had to. Chill, brah. KuHB1aM 21:53, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

i know, its just run4 is making it sound like i should.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:54, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

so yea, changed all the halo names to random names, except the spirit of fire and captain cutter. is that all i need to do to make it more warhammer than halo?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:58, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Coming up with an original idea would be a good start. //--Run4My Talk 22:10, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

how can you make, i'm not even gonna ask, it's too stupid a question.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:13, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Look around the site. Find me one thing that's as obvious a ripoff as your pages were. //--Run4My Talk 22:18, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

... Bolshack, please keep in mind that I don't condone your extensive tweaking of a Haloverse story. It is possible to create original ideas. KuHB1aM 22:19, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

is heralds of darkness going to turn the GL over to chaos? i am looking forward to kick some nicley decorated golden ass color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 22:28, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

No, this is different. I'm not ready to let the GL slip to Chaos; that'll be awhile, maybe a couple RPs away. This RP is different; I'm not even sure if the GL or the Luna Dragons will be involved, since someone has to lead the Emperor's Children. KuHB1aM 22:59, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

ah k color="Black">It is not enough that I succeed color="Black">- all others must fail 01:59, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

now, there's no more halo names in the article appart from captain cutter, harvest, and the spirit of fire.

Bloody redemption and Ice Saints
Hey, Could you read over my 2 articles and see if their is anything wrong or not canon friendly also can you give me some constructive criticism plz.

Sure. I'll message you on your talk page after I'm done reading them. KuHB1aM 23:03, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much.

Razorbeak Gunship's up and running, feel free to take a look.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 14:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

People and their modified gear
Check out Forum:OMG Technology when you get the chance. //--Run4My Talk 16:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fanon Map
Hey, Bolshack had a pretty good Idea with the Fanon Map but Ive thought of a simpler method rather than modifying one out of the rulebook. Check out http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fanonmap1.jpg to see the pic ill be using (without the co-ords). Just send me the co-ords of Chapter Planets or recruitment worlds and which Chapter it is and ill add it to the map in a different colour for each user --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 05:40, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I'll message you with my co'ords later on. KuHB1aM 22:21, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!*yells as the chaos dogs laugh at KuHB1am's downfall*--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:31, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

*Cocks heavy bolter* What's wrong? KuHB1aM 22:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

That was my idea *Almost cries* --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:35, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Chaos dogs? Do you mean Chaos Gods, by any chance? //--Run4My Talk 22:37, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

no, i mean the space marine term "chaos dogs", if i mean chaos gods, i'd say "ugly brothers"..--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:38, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. Imperial scum humour. It does not amuse me! Time to plot a Black Crusade . . . //--Run4My Talk 22:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

aww, can't it wait till morning? even chaos scum bags like you lot need sleep *laughs*--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:52, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Carnage never sleeps! //--Run4My Talk 22:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * sighs* looks like my Catalepsean Node's gonna get a work out this time, ah well *calls over his comunicator* "Ready the Spartans, all Companies, prepare for war.." --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

((we should continue this fight in the next RP, agreed?))--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:04, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

now, KuHB1am, it was my idea, why not use my map? mine's bigger, and more detailed, think of it as a map version of the timeline, all i need are details, chapter fleets, worlds, and all that.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I have the most fantastic idea... let's take a vote, shall we? And by the way, someone fucking post in the Tales of Heresy. You might as well, everyone, cause I've got the next RP and it won't start until we're done with Tales. KuHB1aM 23:44, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

vote? this isnt a demoracy, this is war!--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:21, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Kuhblam, we can put it to a vote. Once ive got everyone's co-ords ill put mine up, you can go nuts with yours. Mine will be showing Chapter Planets and recruitment worlds, and mine will be getting the input of everyone on this site so as to make it a community project, not the workings of one man --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 00:33, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

mine'll already be more detailed then, i'm looking up planets, training worlds, chapter fleets, xenos factions, and everything else, i allready have everything run4's writen about, i'm not using the co-ords though, i'm using the "reading system" considering i have a, actually perfect map in my rule book that i can read from.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:39, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: So the input info is what makes it a comunity project then, then that makes mine one aswell.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:40, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

like I said, go nuts with yours. Now if you would like to discuss the Maps further bring the discussions to my page rather than cluttering everyone elses with ur whining --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 00:43, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

ok, but first, Kuhblam, where is the bespin sector?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 00:51, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The Bespin Sector is located in the far south-east section of the Ultima Segmentum. KuHB1aM 01:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

To the galactic south of salem?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I actually have not heard of this Salem planet you speak of. KuHB1aM 01:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

its just slightly south of ultramar, also south-east in the ultima segmentum.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:23, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Then yes, to the galatic south of Salem. KuHB1aM 01:27, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

right, what shape is the sector?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

It's basically a large octagon, with about five sub-sectors. KuHB1aM 01:35, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

regular octogon or irregular?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:36, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Irregular. I have to go; sorry, will finish tomorrow. KuHB1aM 01:37, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

New Guidelines on Bans
I just wrote out a new set of guidelines on bans. As an admin, you must read it as soon as possible. I do not mean to sound confronting, but as an administrator I will need everyone to get a good feel for them over the next several days. When you are not too sure what category someone applies to, use your intuition. Each admin must now be able to gauge the offensiveness of a bannable user, and apply it as close as they can based on their own thoughts to the new guidelines. You guys have plenty of time to work it out, so feel free to read over it everynow and then; it will eventually become second nature to you all. I wrote it out, and have indirectly memorized it, so even if it seems hard at first, I will be getting Dark seer to memorize it tomorrow, giving you plenty more time. See you all later.

back then?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:34, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yep. KuHB1aM 22:35, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

alrighty then, that irregular octogon shaped sector.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:36, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yah. There are five sub-sectors in it; Bespos, Bespar, Bespeios, Bespeens, and Bespin (shares the name of sector.) KuHB1aM 22:38, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

doesnt help with the shape, there are meny "irregular" octogons.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:40, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't care about the shape. Draw it however you wish.


 * Anyway, since your doing specific sectors, I think you and NoFury can both make a map; Fury will have the larger universal map, you the smaller sectors. KuHB1aM 22:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

i'm doing the larger, complete map, as oposed to the spacemarine spercific/IG spercific ones no fury is doing.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:49, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Run4's already been a great help, i've marked out all of his stuff, including alistair.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:54, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Ok then. KuHB1aM 22:57, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

you know what i mean by a complete map right? as in the main map in the rulebook opposed to the spersific maps in the codexs.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:59, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Does it matter? (and yes, I do know) KuHB1aM 23:01, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

not sure if it matters or not, but i think it might be important.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Lol. Anyway, you have any more questions? KuHB1aM 23:04, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

not at the min. i'll get to work on that map.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:23, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? if you think its ok just say where the sub-sectors are in it, or save the pic and paint it with the sub-sectors in it.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:32, November 4, 2009 (UTC)



There ya go. Bespos is the one in the top left corner, Bespar is directly below Bespos, Bespeios is the skinny sub-sector along the souther portion, Bespeens is the small one in the bottom-left corner, and Bespin is the large central-left sub-sector. KuHB1aM 00:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, ill update it and you can check it out, if its wrong its easy to change --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 00:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Kk. KuHB1aM 00:48, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

excelent *claps*--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thar ya go, sonny. KuHB1aM 01:07, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

now i've added the bespin sector to my map.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:16, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Cool. KuHB1aM 01:20, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

could you go on paint again and put the locations of your planets on the bespin sector map plx?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:22, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Not yet; I'm busy right now, and plus I haven't made enough planet names, lol. KuHB1aM 01:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

haha, looks like its time to go see wether jocannon has made up hs mind then.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 01:30, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

this is how far i've got on the full map so far.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:43, November 6, 2009 (UTC) What do you think?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 18:11, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I just jizzed in my pants. KuHB1aM 21:22, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Because of the map? or because you were doing "indecent" things? (forget the secont part of that, lol)--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:59, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and would it be alright if i style my argent vanguard page after your golden legion? my page is a bit all over the place at the moment.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:46, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Go for it. Just don't copy it down to the letter; use my format as a guide. KuHB1aM 03:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

thank you.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 03:18, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

No prob. KuHB1aM 03:18, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yea, and what happened to the tales of heresy? it doesnt look like it's going anywhere.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

No one has posted yet. It' supposed to be Dark Seer's turn, or better yet, Solbur's. KuHB1aM 22:05, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Is Alistair in the tales of heresy rp?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:08, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

No. Run4 is using Commander Vex of the Legio Custodes. KuHB1aM 22:09, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Right, its just Alistair was alive back then, Antharo Valkaiser was aswell. Whens the heralds of chaos RP gonna be set?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 22:12, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

It's so early in the Heresy, Alistair would still be out on the Eastern Fringes. //--Run4My Talk 22:14, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Heralds of Chaos takes place in 999.M.41 during the 13th Black Crusade, about three years after the fall of Hydra Cordatus. KuHB1aM 12:00, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Whereabouts in the Galaxy? I'll use the Tigers if it's not near the Eye. //--Run4My Talk 15:09, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

It's still in the Segmentum Obscurus, but the story-line for this RP dictates that forces under the last of Abbadon's top aides below the Chosen, who may quite possibly be more bad-ass than Alistair but not have his own article to prevent milking an already powerful Chaos Space Marine for extra mary-sue juice. Anyhow, this guy led his forces past Cadia and the Imperial blockade into the Warp to Minorus Ultra, became trapped in the Warp, fell behind schedule, and then subsequently arrived in the Minora system. KuHB1aM 21:36, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * If he's not a Chosen of Abaddon, he's not as badass as Alistair! Hehehe. Ah, it's just the whole, you don't get to a spot like that without leaving several systems devoid of life and eating babies on a regular basis and whatnot. //--Run4My Talk 23:38, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Alistair can tag along if he likes. KuHB1aM 23:40, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Alistair shows up alongside them: "Ah, hey, how's it going? Yeah, I just steamrolled the next system over and decided to drop by this party here. Looks like fun. Where's the cheese platter?" //--Run4My Talk 23:44, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Lol. I can imagine Gilgamesh on the ship as well.


 * Gilgamesh- "What is cheese platter?! Gilgamesh angry! Gilgamesh come for sacrifices and blood for Blood God! Sacrifice good! Blood good! Cheese platter bad!
 * Alistair- "Silence caveman!"
 * Gilgamesh- "What is caveman?! Gilgamesh mad! Gilgamesh crush you! World Eaters scalp puny Black Legionnaire and make sacrifice of cheese platter to Blood God!"
 * *powers up chainaxes, World Eaters draw weapons*

KuHB1aM 23:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Kills in battle are sacrifices for Khorne. He doesn't believe in rituals or temples. His temple is the battlefield, deaths in battle are his sacrifices. And Alistair's response could well be just to pull a sattelite down from orbit on top of the World Eaters. Those nifty collars of theirs make psychic attacks. . . difficult. . . //--Run4My Talk 00:01, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

They're on a boat... aka the fleet flagship, lol. Why would you doom yourself? Plus the fact you'd never leave the bridge alive. KuHB1aM 00:11, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha. Ha. Hahaha. Mindless World Eaters slaughtering Black Legion Elite. Ha. Ha. Excuse me for a minute. Right. If we're talking boat to boat, that'd be Alistair talking from the command bridge of Requiem. Yeah, good luck passing that one alive . . . //--Run4My Talk 08:02, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thats bout the time Kladius would drop out of the warp and take advantage of you chaos dogs, Hes survived long enough round the warp i reckon he could take both of you with his arms tied behind his back haha --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 08:20, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't Alistair beat him once already? Oh snap! //--Run4My Talk 08:28, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Haha, na Alistair ran like a pansy when a group of my guys jumped him, Alistair just killed everyone else lol --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 08:33, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Gilgamesh would utterly destroy Alistair in hand to hand combat... unless Alistair is so unhonorable that he wants to use his psychic powers on an extent that bypasses Gil's collar. KuHB1aM 11:50, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless Alistair brings any of his Daemon Weapons on. And as long as he hasn't ascended to Daemonhood. And as long as Alistair fought him freight train vs freight train. He wouldn't, he's a thinking fighter. And as for honour, he's a Black Legionnaire. Expecting honour from him is like expecting good personal hygiene from a Death Guard. //--Run4My Talk 14:54, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

if that "caveman noob, turns up, can i bring my anti-daemon chapter master?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:11, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

cause Antharo has a certain ammount of respect for alistair.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:13, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

and his banishment wouldnt hurt.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 16:18, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Given that they ascended from humans and other Chaos worshippers, Daemon Princes have a much stronger hold on the Materium, and so are much much harder to banish than other Daemons. They're on a par with some of the more stubborn Grater Daemons, and some of them took entire companies of Grey Knights to boot back into the Warp. And once that's done, the Daemons, to all intents and purposes, respawn. //--Run4My Talk 17:01, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Meh, Alistair just think's he's the shit. And Bolshack, Gilgamesh would utterly destroy your anti-daemon Chapter Master. He's just that good in close range combat, and his want for close range combat would mean you wouldn't have much time to fire those bolters and lasweapons of yours before Gil comes to the conclusion he and his posse (about a Chapter size and a half of World Eaters) wants to charge you. He doesn't think that much before he makes a decision. KuHB1aM 20:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * KuH, the World Eaters were scattered by Kharn on Skalthrax. They don't have large companies or warbands any more. Unless it's Angron calling them and leading them himself. And that Chapter Master was mortally wounded at some point and interned in a Dreadnought. //--Run4My Talk 21:24, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Abaddon is the only other exception to that rule. When Berserkers gather in large numbers, they get bored, they kill each other, with alarming frequency. //--Run4My Talk 21:26, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

he wouldnt stand a chance asgainst my anti chaos CM, with my 11Ld and banish ability.*yawn*--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11Ld? No. Attacks are the only thing can go over 10. And even then, not the basic attack stat. Naw, that's not gonna fly. //--Run4My Talk 21:52, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

fair enough, considering what i can do with die i only need ten, and antharo was wounded when practicing and perfecting his banish, to clear that query up.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:54, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

oh, and antharo is the closest model i have to an apocalypse, he's 395pts of metal, mind, and damage.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 21:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Silly Astartes, you forget we're role-playing; there's no points here! And Run4, I know that. We already talked before about how they scattered. Gil has gathered what might be the largest remaining concentration of World Eaters. I'll lower that number, but he's still gonna have at least 600 of em'. KuHB1aM 23:35, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

i know we're rping, i'm just letting run4 keep track of my special models' pts.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:52, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

600 chaos marines? BAH THATS TINY!--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:52, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Are you complaining? I guess I'll up that to a thousand World Eaters. What does your powerful, righteous, un-augmented Astartes Chapter say to that? KuHB1aM 01:02, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Dunno what those Argent Pansies say but the Templar say bring it, BLOOD FOR OUR FALLEN!! --color="#072791">War within, War without, War unending 01:25, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * More fuel for Alistair's Ascension. //--Run4My Talk 06:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

As well as Gil's. THERE WILL BE BLOOD TONIGHT! KuHB1aM 12:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

oh, you mean the Argent vanguard's "FOR THE GLORY OF GUILLIMAN!?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

i'd kinda like a battle with at-least 1000 guys on each side, looks like i'll bring antharo's personal company aswell, and "steel rain".--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 19:15, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * And then Alistair ascends and starts eating people left, right and centre. //--Run4My Talk 19:40, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Gil doesn't like Astartes who associate with his chosen drink and past-time. Blood Templars, prepare to die. And yes, what kind of W40k battle would it be if there was less than a couple thousand on each side? We've still Guardsmen and Cultists to tally. KuHB1aM 22:34, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Forget thee not the Daemonkin. //--Run4My Talk 22:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I am sooooo gonna call in Angron once his banishment is up. And then he'll come and aid his third in command and rape your shit. KuHB1aM 22:50, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoa-ho-ho no. Alistair isn't a taxi service you can ring and arrange for a lift. Calling on him like an old buddy is likely to get you powerbombed into the planet's core. //--Run4My Talk 22:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Calling is an inaccurate word. I'll find a way. KuHB1aM 22:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

thee daemon-kin go bye bye.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:05, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Go clean your righteous bolter, Vanguard! KuHB1aM 23:07, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

who needs a bolter when my chapter master can banish daemons?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well I figured you'd might need some type of ranged weapon... KuHB1aM 23:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

twin linked lascanons and two missile launchers good enough for you?(they'd make quick work of a defiler)--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

If you can use them in close-quarters, why not? KuHB1aM 23:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

So he's got no Dreadnought CC weapons? //--Run4My Talk 23:27, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

he has one of them too, its just kuhblam asked for ranged weaps.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Chainfists? Powerfists with melta-cannons? What is it? KuHB1aM 23:30, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

If you say the Dreadnought's modified, I'm just gonna change the page myself. The Tech Priests and Techmarines don't know how to build Dreadnoughts, much less modify the chasis. Two Arms. Where do the two Missile launchers go? //--Run4My Talk 23:32, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

what the hell are you talking about? he has one arm, twin linkd lascannons and two hunter killer missile launchers.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna need more muscle. KuHB1aM 23:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

now your guy is just a coward, just like horus -.- --Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:40, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I simply said I'm gonna need some more fire-power. Did I say was going to attack in an opposite direction? No. KuHB1aM 23:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

your guy can only have two weaps max that he uses at a time, he is just a normal humanoid.--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:43, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I mean more forces, not weapons. Gil prefers to stay light on his feet and hit hard; I'm talking more Traitor Astartes. KuHB1aM 23:47, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Just gonna take Moloch to his sarcophagus. //--Run4My Talk 23:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

good, my spartans could use the target practice. what are the main forces gonna be argent vanguard Vs black legion Vs gilm....whatever his name is?--Chapter Master Bolshack Wildhammer 23:51, November 11, 2009 (UTC)