Board Thread:Community Decisions/@comment-33255378-20180111111910/@comment-24909831-20180111205432

I felt obliged to answer this because my position as an administrator, even if I agree with the reasons given by my colleague User:Imposter101.

Love how you refer to a single occasion mentioned in a single Codex how two forces had to simultaneously retreat from the battlefield because of the attrition they suffered in that particular battle. If you want to make a case about this one, bring up ten more examples with sources and I'll promise we will look into this one.
 * SM-Xenos alliances

Codex: Space Marines (4th Edition) page 7 and Codex: Space Marines (5th Edition) page 7.
 * Size of 1000 Space Marines

And I know, perfectly well, that an optimal size of a Space Marine chapter is something around 1100-1200. And I know, that in that particular page I referred to, it is said that the chapters' size fluctuates, but it doesn't matter, because that particular page also says that the original idea is preserved. Legion-building is a no-no. Few years back we had rules that allowed chapters to be up to 1500 strong and up to 3000 strong with an administrator's permission. Guess what? Every single chapter was 1500 strong (and rumored to be larger). All of them were legion-builders, and all of them would've ended up like the Astral Claws. Excommunicated, their worlds purged, and fleeing into the Warp.

I've seen so many excuses, why this chapter could defy the will of the High Lords of Terra and start to build their own legion. None of them were good. None of them were plausible. But if you can come up with... let's say five decent reasons, as to why a single chapter could defy the will of the High Lords of Terra, Adeptus Terra and the Lord Guilliman's will. Then sure, I promise to take this thing up and seek a new solution for it.

Sure. Chapter being from a second Founding does not neccessarily make it non-canon-friendly... but it likely does so anyway. Because 2nd Founding chapters are always so badass, so cool, so edgy, so powerful et cetera. They are also likely to be legion-builders... and from traitor gene-seed.
 * 2nd Founding

Plus I have seen official sources for 2nd Founding chapters in Chapter Approved booklets, codices and other publications too... to me they look pretty solid lists. Even that Apocrypha of Skaros which fails to name all of the 23 Ultramarines primogenitors seem solid... I mean, if there are 24 Ultramarines primogenitors, 12 of them are already named, all fanon chapters that would interact with more than 12 of those chapters would automatically be NCF.

Though main reason is that 2nd Founding chapters are always overpowered Mary Sue shitbags that I do not wish to see on this site and I hope none of the other users do so either.

I personally think Chaos Gods should be banned alltogether, because all them are shit, and even those that aren't are stepping on one of the Great Four's toes. But sure. You do have sources for these many Daemon Princes controlling over the Daemon Worlds all by themselves? Primarchs don't count. Just because they are so vastly different things.
 * Chaos Gods

I have been thinking about this particular rule few times actually, after it was implemented. I do think that Loyalist Traitors should be banned, because if they are not, they were supposedly integrated into existing chapters or created their own and dän dän dän dääääääään.... begun their line of pure traitor-bred chapters. No.
 * Loyalist traitors, traitor loyalists

Otherway around... well. I don't know. Maybe you should come up with some good reasons to get rid of this rule.

I like how you refer to third party developers' fantastic lore knowledge and contributions... Why not dump your space marines with some multilasers while you are at it?
 * Fantasy Flight Games

No. I like FFG stuff, we all do (I believe). They cover a lot of things that are otherwise left a bit in the shadows, but they have made huge mistakes canon-wise and I personally think that any GW publication will every time overcome FFG stuff.

Please do point out. But if you actually have valid points, I would expect you to back them up with some sources.
 * There are some other things, but I'll limit myself to those issues for now