User blog comment:40kfan/I'm Done/@comment-8464494-20150908074909/@comment-1620907-20150908082651

Bravo T. You've actually made me want to counter-rant at you, deconstruct your entire argument and defend my position on the wiki.


 * "Regardless of how we feel about 40kfan, anyone with any modicum of self awareness and honestly has to admit that most of the admins, namely Necrus, Imposter, and sometimes Kal and Ork when they have the time, are here mainly to be inflammatory and cruel and sometimes do wiki stuff in between their own lame memes"

A classic "to the man" fallacy that uses emotive language with no evidence. I've given up being cruel to users and have exclusively been helpful for the last nine fucking months. If people ask for help, I have given it to them. When users have appeared to be struggling, I've given guidance. I take time out of my busy fucking schedule to try to improve both the community and the mechanical running of the website. Sure, I may take the odd joke at another user's expense if they've managed to annoy me profusely, but I've spent three years as an admin here keeping the wiki from fucking imploding. Necrus also dedicates an obscene amount of time to keeping this place running properly in between his fairly busy schedule. If you've got a problem with Ork or Imposter, bring it up to them on their talk pages and don't be a coward about it by posting it in a generalisation fallacy where you lump in other admins on an inflammatory blog post.


 * "In my two year long presence here, many months of it spent on the outside looking in, I have only seen Supahbad be really anything helpful in the community sense. Sure Neck does coding, but the categories are still pretty shitty."

Reminder that you ended up as an outsider looking in due to rules violations and being incredibly toxic - ironic given your apparent grievances. I feel like throwing in a pot shot fallacy in here, because there's only so much defamation I can take. The agreement with the admins is the Supah handles the community side of things while I'm available as well. Due to the new user base seemingly being enamored with Supah, nobody bothers asking me anymore despite making myself visible as an alternative. As for the coding. Can you even comprehend how tedious it is to fix these issues and that we spend most of our time slowly improving on them? Can you even begin to fathom just for a second, that we spend just as much time on clean up on the wiki as you privileged little writers get to spend actually writing and having fun here? I used to have fun and write on this wiki. I used to have the time to do that, but I spend most of my time fixing broken issues with the wiki now.


 * "Sure we introduced "quality control" and deleted alot of shit that really didn't deserve it and sure alot of shit that DID deserve it. It was a clumsy and half assed operation but whatever it did do something."

Thanks for shitting on a long term investment of admin time that took several days to complete and was carefully handled by everybody involved. I'm sorry if it appears to have been "half assed" or "whatever" but it was a long, tiring, taxing and necessary process for those who were actually actively involved. It is not our job to fix articles that "didn't deserve it". Others were given the opportunity to do it. But you didn't. It's our job to make the wiki easier to navigate and keep it at a higher level of general content quality. QED.


 * " What I'm getting to is this basically. Barring at least two admins, I can't think of any justifiable reason why most of you guys are even fucking here other than to make this place toxic and difficult to be around."

A classic argument from ignorance fallacy right here. See Supah's involvement is easy to see. Because it's with the community and he interacts with the users. The rest of the admins tend to focus on the behind the scenes stuff that you little wallflowers will never need to worry your little heads about. Things like double-redirects, redundant categories, hidden categories, coding conflucts brought about by Wikia's latest changes and countless other thankless tasks that would be left unchecked without the admins fixing them. We never have time to rest on our laurels and are generally busy doing other things. I frequently log into chat and will then be AFK for the duration as I fix things. So yeah, thanks for being ungrateful, it really keeps the admins motivated to help and won't make them likely to be more spiteful. Do you want another newsflash T, you're generally regarded to be one of the toxic community members by new users and people who ask for help. I thought you could do with a little reality check here.


 * "I just feel that if we actually had people who like 40k, have fucking minor social graces, oh and weren't socialists (personal preference) running the wiki and in places of influence this place would be more inviting and less depressing."

Well apart from having a bias fallacy, it's also a statement from ignorance. Exactly who would replace the current admins? We've had this discussion countless times with upset users who don't like how things are run and it usually comes back round to the fact there isn't anyone competent enough or trustworthy enough to be given the position. You said it yourself that you'd abuse any power you had. Also thanks for another generalisation fallacy. Given that myself and Supah aren't fucking lefty socialists. So well done there.

As for the rest. You probably have some points about the general negativity of the wiki and there being lines that shouldn't be crossed. But once again, just like after your little strop over not having your article made FA, you've managed to strike a nerve where I'm genuinely fucked off.

Regards

Khalael.