User talk:Algrim Whitefang/Archive1

Where did u get that image Warhounds fights its own brother on the Blood Seeker Chapter

Kasrkin Veteran / 17:18 / 11, 25, 2011

Thanks :]

Kasrkin Veteran / 17:56 / 11, 27, 2011

wow
Algrim Whitefang your request to change stuff on my Death Templars is granted. and I like the new iterations that you did. really liking it alot. TheSpawn117 (talk) 09:35, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Storm Drauger
Just curious, how willing would you be to help a fellow adept (albeit a chaosy one) and perhaps make a proper looking CSM picture for the Storm Draugar? Totally open ended, I was just thinking of something that looks more like a codex page you know? And perhaps adding in a chainaxe or chainsword to make the image in the infobox more dynamic. Lemme know what you think, I'll be quite grateful either way.T42 (talk) 10:55, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

I honestly cannot thank you enough for how amazing that turned out! If you ever need anything Algrim you can ask me! If its no small trouble I might have some other ideas in the future, but for now I'm just going to smile stupidly at the Storm Draugar infobox. Cheers!T42 (talk) 00:20, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Neat System
Actually a fairly neat system of displaying chapter/legion colours you've got going here. I assume you have a library of existing images from codexes and White Dwarf issues and the like that you just splice together and recolour when needed? — NecrusIV   (Talk)  04:40, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Damn. Well, we can see that that extensive collection certainly has its uses beyond completeness or access to lore :P — NecrusIV   (Talk)  05:23, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Chapter of the Eternal Apocrypha
I hear tell you make pictures. Mind indulging a simple request?

I was hoping to get some sort of symbol for this particular article, preferably on a shoulder plate. I leave what exact form said symbol takes up to your artistic interpretations. If you happen to be too busy to indulge this request, I understand completely. Spektator (talk) 23:42, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!
Wow, thanks Algrim that looks awesome!--Kingslayer1 (talk) 11:08, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Artwork Request
Hey crazy request, Crusade Eternal I was wondering if you could do a Terminator armor scheme for this one. I have no ideas for colors or shoulder badge so feel free to take artistic liberties with that but all that is kinda required is that some parts of the Terminator (or if you can only do regular Chaos Power armor thats just fine) be covered in barbed/razor wire. Thanks in advance.T42 (talk) 17:52, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yo yo its all cool my Wolfy friend, I'm used to days or weeks of wait time for artwork. Its what we inept people without photoshop must get used to. Frankly I'm just tickled pink that your willing to put so much work into what might as well be a complete strangers odd fanon. For that I thank you. Kinda hope you'll hang around here more often, you really feel like a swell guy, not just because you hand free stuff of high quality out of course. :pT42 (talk) 11:14, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Please stop
"Infoboxes Use of appropriate infoboxes. Images should not be over 300px wide. One infobox per article.

Infobox images must strictly be suitable examples of the article's content, e.g. a planet's orbital photo, a character's face, a chapter's symbol and colour scheme, etc. Captions must describe the image in a clear and concise manner.

No infoboxes within infoboxes."

The rules don't say you need to have an infobox, they say you are at maximum allowed one infobox. Dan isn't going to say otherwise.

--Imposter101 (talk) 22:18, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Admin Issue
Hey Algrim. Solomus here. After a quick review of the article in question (Ash Scorpions), I'm not entirely sure what you and Imposter are having a disagreement about? The article appears to possess a single infobox on the page. I'm not sure if there's an issue with the article itself or what - but if you say you can't see the infobox on the page, I'm not entirely sure what I can do.

Additionally, I was under the impression that articles weren't required to possess a single infobox, only that they weren't allowed to have more than one. I apologize if the rules aren't clear about this, and will bring it up with my fellow administrators at their latest convenience. I would like to bring up that if the rules did have users mark every one of their articles with at least one infobox, a number of well written and canon friendly articles would have been deleted already. I hope this clears up all the issues. Feel free to message me with any more concerns you might have,

-- Solomus Blackwing -(Talk |My Sandbox) 23:05, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Ah! I see. While I suppose the Space Marine Chapter Infobox could be used for this page. The Ash Spectres is actually a Chapter from the Raven Guard Legion that was active during the Horus Heresy. (see this link here http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/SMLegionOrg.jpg ) Additionally, the user who made this page has not been active since May, though you are free to message them on their talk page if you so wish.

Again, I and other administrators believe that the rules only forbid users to have more than one infobox, rather than having one as a requirement. I once again apologize if the rules are not clear enough about this. Thank you for clearing up which article you were speaking of, and feel free to message me with any more questions or concerns about this. -- Solomus Blackwing -(Talk |My Sandbox) 00:46, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

First warning
Removal of content from your talk page is a violation of wikia policy. This is your first warning. --Imposter101 (talk) 11:22, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

You don't need to apologize. I know first hand how llfe tends to complicate things. Take your time, there's no rush. Spektator (talk) 20:11, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

hey algrim do you want the blood scorpions? i don't want them anymore. TheSpawn117 (talk) 07:49, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

sounds good. TheSpawn117 (talk) 09:14, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

OMG Algrim thank you so so very much!! I love it its perfect! I cannot express how much I am loving this artwork, and how grateful I am you did it for me. muchas gracias. If you ever wanna co-lab on something, I would be keen as a bean.

Zeph gm (talk) 10:29, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Proposal
If you are wanting some easy valor for your Lions I along with a couple of other users are writing a massive battle against chaos forces in the Nerio System

If you would like you could send your Chapter in to help reclaim some of the captured worlds and smack around some heretics. Let me know if you are interested.--Kingslayer1 (talk) 11:14, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Question(s) and proposal
Hello Algrim. First thing first, I'm a great fan of your work on this wiki and the official one !

As you may have noticed, I'm currently writing something about a second Chapter, and I would have wanted to know if, per chance, you had some picture of a Raven Guarde Captain armour during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy ? I would have liked to have a relic of this kind for my Void Ravens and I can't find it myself...

I would also like to know if you could be interesting in my Sons of Iron or Void Ravens interacting with one of your own Chapters/other forces present on this wikia. Any case continue your awesome work ! Urthan (talk) 09:27, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, we can discuss the details later in chat if you want. If I am not able to respond you can direct your questions to T42 and/or BrowncoatMando.--Kingslayer1 (talk) 18:26, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Hi Algrim :) I really love all the space marine art you have been making for users chapters, and I was wondering. If you have time, would you be able to create one for my Whisper Dragons and Signalmen chapters, please? AmyTheStray (talk) 01:13, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Thankyou so much :) I cant wait to see what you come up with AmyTheStray (talk) 01:44, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

I actually deleted the charnel brethren page originally but decided to rewrite the article a bit differently and forget to remove the original delete request Michael50 (talk) 21:07, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Art Requests and Colab Offer
Hey hey hey Algrim, I noted all the work you and your bro have been doing around the wiki and have an idea or two for a rather ambitious but hopefully successful story. Now as you've noticed, my Storm Draugar tend to get around, and I was thinking of a fun little three way conflict involving some of your newer Space Marine Chapters.

Lemme set the stage for you. Now ideally, I was hoping to involve the Sable Lions and Ebon Knights, but if you'd rather your other Chapters be involved thats enterily workable. Now, the story begins with a rebellion on the Hive World of Tahgma Secundus, a civil war that has raged for several years finally gets out of hand and elements of the forces of Chaos are uncovered by an Inquisitorial enclave. Fun twist is that the aristocratic ruling class is the ones who embraced the Dark Gods in an attempt to finally put down the populist revolution. With such a discovery, the Inquisitorial unit sends and urgent plea for assistance in purging the world of the taint of the Archenemy, which is awnsered by two Chapters. The Sable Lions would respond simply because suppression and later punitive actions are what they are described as being particlarly capable of, and the Ebon Knights would come both to support an abused population AND because they recently lost the trail of a Fallen not far from this region of space and the likelyhood of him supporting the corrupt aristos remains a distinct possibility. Elements of both Chapters arrive in force, but by then the situation is dire, the noblity has gone full heretic and are freely utlizing sorcerery, daemons, and the like. Imperial Guard detachments have been held up due to strange Warp anomolies, and the Marines themselves were delayed by several extra months. I'm not sure on the actual size of the Loyalist contingant, but I will leave that up to you two to decide. Needless to say, the Loyalists are an Emperor-send, and the rebels, now led by the Inquisitor, now have a fighting chance. A few weeks later and the heretics are on the defensive, desperate and running rapidly out of places to withdraw to. In a final last ditch effort, they, under the sway of the Fallen Sorcerer known only by the assumed name Tisiphone, preform a dark and horrible ritual. A massive rift opens over the planet, and a large contingant of the Storm Draugar pour forth like a black tide. The stakes rise, and soon the very fate of the planet hangs in the balance as an Inquisitorial Extermenatus fleet is put en route. Now it is up to the Inquisitor, a plucky Revolutionary Commander, and a handful of Space Marines to save the planet from the likes of the some of the most vile minions at the Archenemy's disposal. Please do tell me if this offer catches your fancy.

On another, less long winded note, I was hoping to requisition more artwork for the Storm Draugar and check up on that request for the Crusade Eternal. I was thinking it would be awsome to start up an SD gallery on their page, and would like it if you could maybe create a picture of 13 Draugar Lords of the Storm Draugar. Malak and Ingar will not be included, and before I give you a lengthy discription of each Draugar Lord I'd like your yay or nay if you are willing to undertake the art project as I understand its a rather big thing to ask, especially considering the somewhat uniqe look of several of the Draugar Lords. Anyway, sorry for the text block and thanks in advance either way!T42 (talk) 01:07, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

hey algrim if you have the time to do some artwork for my death ravens chapter that would be great, the pics iv got are mostly space marine painter thanks in advance mikeMichael50 (talk) 10:17, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I should really get to updating that chapter; Haven't visited this site in a long while! -- Gokachu -(Talk) 11:10, December 10, 2013 (UTC) 18:31, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Art Requests and Colab Offer Mk2
That there is a 10/4 on the Dauntless Angels color change and as for the Draugar Lords their designs are as follows and if the design is too out there please tell me:

First on the list is Norgath Oath-Breaker, Draugar Lord of the 2nd Storm. He's an ex-World Eater, banished to the Basilica of Torments when he slaughtered the Chaos Lord he had sworn a blood oath to in a fit of rage. He was imprisoned for what felt like centuries but eventually escaped his Warp prison by shattering the massive blocks of Warp Stone he was chained too and utlizing the jagged shards as improvised swords (Think God of War style with the swords on chains except in this case the swords are shards of solidified evil and the chains are implanted directly to his Power Armor) he managed to cut his way out of that hell. Norgath Oath-Breaker would wear armor of a simmilar design to most World Eaters Khornate Berzerkers though he will have likely changed the colors to the Storm Draugar livery of Black and Purple.

Second is Lord Murdok, the disgraced Draugar Lord of the 3rd Storm. Formerly an Iron Warrior and one of the earlier members of the Warband, Murdok seized control of Lupercal's Folly and the Warband when the Blackspawns vanished following the Siege of Lupercal's Folly in which the Storm Draugar desperately held out against a vast Host of Word Bearers. Murdok ruled with an iron fist and was generally considered to be a paranoid ego manaic, however he was also a tactical genius and master of siegecraft. Thus when the Blackspawns returned and he was overthrown, they let him live but basically his role is to be the garrison commander, bureaucrat, and secratary. No longer does his Storm engage in glorious crusades for the Dark Gods but instead they are the border guard for the Blackspawn Dominion, this makes Murdok bitter as hell but he knows his place. Murdok would wear Terminator armor most likely and have a vast array of bionics, unlike most Iron Warriors I'd expect Murdoks armor to show signs of corruption and so on and he too would bear Draugar colors with a hint of his old legions hazard color marks like alot of his Storm does.

Third, Nazath the Unbroken, Draugar Lord of the 4th Storm, interesting in that he is an old MkV Dreadnought taken from the Iron Warriors as well. He was a salwart veteran and commander of his own Warband until Nazath pissed off several of his contemperary Warsmiths who promptly stomped him and his men and left only a pittance to retreat into the River of Exiles. Nazath and his few remaining Astartes fell in with the Storm Draugar soon after, adopting the Purple and Black in full to spite the Legion that ran him off. He would be armed with a Power Claw and Multi-Melta.

Fourth, Baail Deurtog, Draugar Lord of the 5th Storm. Baail hails from the now defunct Space Marine Chapter known as the Children of the Sword, a vain and famously influential Chapter of Ultramarines Successors. Having been denied his promotion to 1st Captain as he thought he rightly deserved, Baail sabotged his Chapter's forces during an engagment with the Storm Draugar in an attempt to eliminate his rivals and snatch victory for the Chapter from the jaws of defeat, making him the rightful heir to Chapter Master. Instead he botched the Chapter's defense of their own homeworld and got himself and several of his men captured. However, for his defiant last stand, Malak Blackspawn offered Baail the position of the previous member of the 5th Storm whome was slain in the battle. Baail accepted gleefully, and had his armor daubed in the Draugar Livery before the sun set for the last time over his homeworld. Baail is basically an evil Cato Sicarius, a brilliant but arrogent tactican and commander. He still wears alot of the more pimped out Ultramarine style officer gear but it is tainted by his stint in the River, having grown monsterous over time.

Fifth, Herrod Boundsoul, Draugar Lord of the 6th Storm. A powerful Sorcerer (specializing in Biomancy but hes quite capable of other disiplines given the need) and cunning commander, Herrod used to be a Chaos Lord of a Thousand Sons warband. However, an intense battle with a powerful Inquisitorial force (including Grey Knights) left him with a pyrric victory, and afterwords only had a handful of slaves and two full squads of Rubrics left to his name. He fled to the River, and joined the Storm Draugar on the condition that they provide him with the means to continue his horrid experements with the mysteries of the Warp. Herrod's Terminator Armor would still show sings of its Thousand Sons origin, but the colors would have been changed as a show of good faith to his new leigelords. He carries a powerful Daemon-Sword, taken from the slain corpse of the mighty Daemon Prince Auzkha the Soulscourge.

Sixth, Heshgar the Heathen, Draugar Lord of the 7th Storm. A member of the Fallen who feels that while he may have betrayed the Emperor with his actions, Lion'El betrayed all his Legion when he smote Caliban. As Heshgar had grown up in the southern provences of Caliban as a dedicated squire of the Order and fervently dedicated to preserving Caliban's legacy and culture, he was driven mad with hate after her destruction and now relentlessly hunts loyalist Dark Angels while seeking out fellow Fallen to induct into his Storm. Heshgar wears an old suit of MkII Crusade Armor that has been warped and corrupted, and flies into battle alongside his Raptors with his Possessed Jump Pack the Wings of Vengance, which is said to burn the souls of his slain enemies as fuel. He proudly bears the Livery of the Storm Draugar, for they inadvertenly rescued him when they cut down a force of Deathwing. He also carries a Power Axe as his weapon of choice.

Seventh, Krethnan Bloodlord, Draugar Lord of the Eighth Storm. Krethnan was once a loyalist of the Chapter known as the Sons of the Slayer, a Blood Angels Chapter dedicated to Daemon hunting. However, when the Chapter got lost in the Warp and they all inevitably went mad, Krethnan was forced to slay many of his former kin alongside the invading daemons by order of the Chapter Master. One of the few to remain any semblance of sanity, Krethnan had enough of killing his own and instead assassinated the Chapter Master, taking control and devoting his survivors to Khorne in a faustian bargan to get the hell out of the Warp. The survivors ended up in the River of Exiles when they were cast from the Warp and their derilict Battle Barge was discovered by the Storm Draugar a year later. By then irrideemably corrupt, Krethnan and his renegades daubed themselves in Purple and Black and never looked back. Krethnan wears a suit of regular Aquilla Power Armor, and in spite of his creed and bloodline, prefers to use his Bolter and bayonet, for he tries to make the slaughter as pragmatic as possible by combining ranged firepower with brutal close combat.

Eighth, Malduke, Draugar Lord of the Ninth Storm. A former Night Lord who simply appeared in the Storm Draugar's ranks one day, Malduke rose to prominance due to his brilliant use of fast attack and terror tactics, not to mention his odd preference for ensuring his cultists are up to snuff and cosindering them valuble solidery as opposed to fodder. He still bears the old Night Lords thunderbolts but most of his armor has been repainted. He wears the classic bone bedecked, wing helmed armor of his erstwhile kin, and prefers to fly into battle with a band of "tame" Warp Talons utilizing his own Lighting Claw and Bolt Pistol. (Dual Lighting Claws are also not unheard of)

Ninth, Brother Krandred of the Tenth Storm. Also known as the Old Wolf, Krandred was one of the first Storm Draugar, having defected with the Blackspawns during the Horus Heresy. Thus he is a Son of Horus down to a T. He's a ruthless commander and dieheard loyal soldier, though his loyalty is only to the Blackspawns. His Power Armor would be of old HH design, complete with a plume and a cape.

Tenth, Kiong Shin, Draugar Lord of the 11th Storm. Kiong is a younger Draugar Lord, created from one of the rare samples of Pre-Corruption Death Guard gene-seed the Storm Draugar have access too as some Death Guard defected with them after the Drop Site Massacre. Clad in an old suit of Terminator, Kiong is a dour paragon of the old Death Guard, armed with a wrist mounted tox-spewer and a Power Scythe. While a Storm Draugar through and through, Kiong also tries to emulate the Legion whose blood flows in his veins, and actively has "What would Mortarion do?" moments all the time. However he is also brash and prone to ego, and is stalwartly against worshipping Nurgle as he feels he is stronger as a Champion of Chaos Undivided. (though Nurgle will always have a special sort of claim to his soul, both due to his bloodline and his use of biological and chemical weapons)

Eeleventh, Verrick Sorrowbringer, Draugar Lord of the 12th Storm. A Slaaneshii through and through, Verrick was borne in the Flesh Pits of Lupercal's Folly from a mix of Emperor's Children and White Scars gene-seed. He prefers to battle from atop his Assault Bike, and thus wears only a Vox-Caster mask and wears his hair in a tall top knot so as to feel the wind whipping at his skin and gore of the enemy splash across his face. He wears a typical scrapped together suit of Power Armor, bearing both a mix of Storm Draugar colors and a lot of shining gold icons and pendants of blasphemous worship.

Twelfth, Argyle the Glutton, Draugar Lord of the 13th Storm. Formerally a Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers, Argyle dethroned by his First Acolyte and left for dead during the Battle of Khremri. His battered body was discovered by Storm Draugar when they mounted a surprise attack on the war torn world, catching the Word Bearers Host and Imperial Guard forces fighting over the planet both off guard. Argyle, nursed of his wounds, would go on to personally lead a unit of Cultists against his former Host. Later the Apostle was granted a position within the Storm Draugar and through rite of combat became Draugar Lord of the 13th Storm. Argyle however has begun to delve deep into the Storm Draugars Storm Cult, and thus became a Possessed Chaos Marine, inviting a daemon into his form. His fanatical subordiants have also followed suit, and thus while they bear the Black and Purple they are also all monsterous beasts in battle, claws and fangs replacing swords and bolters. Argyle is no exeption, but instead the paragon of this.

Finally, Onas Krel, Draugar Lord of the 14th Storm. Another Slaaneshi, Onas hailed from a 21st Founding Chapter known as the Heralds of Perdition, whose gene-seed degenerated into mutant deformations and strange abilities which lead to them being declared heretics within over a century of their founding. Onas developed the ability to blast the enemy apart with but his voice, and eventually became a Noise Marine. When his renegade Chapter fractured into civil war, Onas jumped ship with several of his men and joined the Draugar. Onas Krel and his men specalize in strange, unconventional tactics, most of which tend to be flashy. These range from the more artful and subtle assaults via stealth and infiltration to bombastic manuvers such as equipping their Noise Marines with Jump Packs or risky battlefield sorcerery to teleport rapidly across the battlefield. Onas' Power Armor is gaudy and bedecked with stolen purity seals and bits of loyalist officer regalia (such as a patchwork cape made from the capes of fallen Space Marine Captains) to the extent that the Draugar Livery underneath is hard to see at times.

*whew* I know its alot so I dont expect all these at once Algrim, thanks for your consideration. As for the colab, we can start next weekend most likely. If you want we can shedual a meeting in the Chat either here or on the canon wiki if we want to discuss plot in depth, thanks again!T42 (talk) 22:51, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I made the banners for the White Lions chapter, along with most of the other artwork. I appropriate the compliment but I don't think you should try contacting me any further. It's not that I don't like the compliments but according to a certain user and his pet sycophants I'm basically the devil. If they so much as think your associated with me they'll probably organize another witch hunt.

You seem like a nice guy, so please, do yourself a favor and head back to the canon wiki. I know, you probably think this fanon wika is a special place, and it probably was at some point, but now it's just a cesspit where the jaded look down upon the lesser users and laugh as they do fuck all.

Sincerely and With Best Wishes,

40kfan

Wow, they look amazing :) Thankyou, and your brother, so much! I can't wait to see what the Whisper Dragons look like AmyTheStray (talk) 01:16, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

the pics look great thanks so much for that and if there's anything i can help you with just ask thanks mikeMichael50 (talk) 12:43, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Algrim. Thanks for the updated artwork on the Blood Wights and if you don't mind I'll use those on my page. :) ---PaperScraps (talk) 15:03, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! i really like that artwork! its totally awesome and really i would love the help, im sorry if my article is kinda plain just started to love this Space marine Thing and i am actually looking forward to someone to help me with the chapters livery. if i describe it it would be a force sword and a chain sword forming an X and a power hammer in the middle all behind a terminator cross shaped shield with a skull in the middle to finish.SilveredKnight (talk) 16:18, October 18, 2015 (UTC)