User blog comment:WhiteSeraph/New Theme!/@comment-1536954-20140315011317/@comment-8395098-20140317224426

what crack are you smoking and where can i get some... in fantasy flight no matter which varient when your psycher screws up and summons a daemon it's always trouble. in Dark Heresy and Only War it's a boss fight on it's own, and in Black Crusade in Deathwatch it's a mid-level battle (and noted your average DW marine shits out CSM remains as he eats them). the only time a Daemon is not a issue in those games is when you have a master level daemon mancer who can litterally enslave the Daemon on a roll of 50 or lower cuz then you don't have to fight  said daemon.

In table top Daemon's cost more to field that CSM, are riskier to field due to the fact they fall off the table if your unlucky, but if they make it on the board they laugh off all damage and just march through the enemy. 1,500 points of chaos Space Marines lost to less than half that points worth in daemons in my own experiance...and why i say half...cuz the enemy lost half their army to it falling off the table.

now that is just TT rules and shit now for lore. look at the mordian Iron Guard CSM, cultist "bah lol they tried to fight us"...Daemons "oh shit the lines been broken." every lore time there has been daemons it's either been a chapter master and 20 SM steamrolling one bloodletter (wow so hard) or a small tide of daemons saying fuck the rules i'll walk through your tank and kill everyone inside, and use foot soldiers to kill titans.