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I don't know, I have no ideas how these archives work XD And that's an answer to your "make an archive yourself" comment, no idea how to do them, no idea how they work. LegionXIII (talk) 02:19, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I've recently signed up to the Wikia, and I was the one who wrote the Infernal Wings page. You said we needed to talk about Chapter size?

Hapcelion (talk) 05:30, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I just had a thought about the gene seed of Space Marines. Would it be possible for the Tymon to reverse engineer it?Overlord347 (talk) 06:32, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So basically, they'd have to get their hands on some progenoid glands in order to even hope of replicating them?Overlord347 (talk) 19:39, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

This is set during first contact. My friend created a chapter called the Lastborn, which was a Chapter formed from a few other Chapters by Inquisitorial orders. A company of them accidently found a newly-colonized Tymon world, and a fight erupted. They got mauled pretty badly by the domus's personal force, but were victorious. They are set to be like rivals for the Tymon, fighting them off and on. I can go into more detail if you want about them, but it's still in the fledgling state.Overlord347 (talk) 20:02, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Well, my reasoning for the above average size is that they were never a codex compliant chapter, since they were probably descended from Night Lords, and that the new chapter master wanted to have a contingent of survivors in the event of another wipe out. Of course, if this is not a sufficient reason, is it possible for you to perhaps help me in that regard? Or shall I retool the Chapter composition to fit the general chapter size a little better?

I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! 20:28, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

There will be a fairly big battle, but the Tymon exist in a pocket of space that is far away from the Astronimican and where the Warp currents are very violent and unpredictable, sort of like the Ghoul Stars. I'm still working out how it's going to play out, but it would be somewhat similar to the Damocles Crusade, where the Imperium takes massive losses and eventually decides that this is too much trouble.

Overlord347 (talk) 20:35, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Would it be possible for the Tymon to bribe the Mechanicus with technology? Or would that only make them more eager to conquer them?Overlord347 (talk) 21:04, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, basically, it would take a pretty big event for the Imperium to halt the war.Overlord347 (talk) 21:12, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Well, I could go with the lack of vehicles explaination. The chapter focus is mainly stealth and all, and vehicles generally get in the way, what with being loud and all. That, and they're next to the Tau empire and incoming hive fleets, so I expect the attrition rate to be high.

I was also thinking of using some of the companies as reserves for Inquisitional duties, such as Deathwatch. Would that work?

Additionally, maybe I should add in gene seed deficiencies, such as less than optimal bone and muscle enhancements? Or perhaps longer than normal progenoid geneseed maturation?

Anyways, if these don't work, I'll go about retooling the chapter to fit codex size. It might be 100 or so over, though...

I was also thinking of using some of the companies as reserves for Inquisitional duties, such as Deathwatch. Would that work?

Additionally, maybe I should add in gene seed deficiencies, such as less than optimal bone and muscle enhancements? Or perhaps longer than normal progenoid geneseed maturation?

Anyways, if these don't work, I'll go about retooling the chapter to fit codex size. It might be 100 or so over, though... I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 21:13, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

I was actually hoping that the Tymon would be granted semi-autonomy like the Squats were. They'd still be a part of the Imperium, but more of a "offer one hand, arm the other" relationship.Overlord347 (talk) 21:30, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Sort of like a protectorate rather than an actual part of it. Or would that not be enough for the Imperium?Overlord347 (talk) 21:38, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, it's basically an all or nothing deal with the Imperium. Unless something truly big happens, which knowing Games Workshop it will not, or the Tymon somehow have to have a serious edge to prevent conquest without them being too overpowered.Overlord347 (talk) 21:43, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Maybe Vivaporous can give me some pointers. His Xai'athi faction seems to be able to resist the Imperium to the point that they don't even regard it as a threat. Hopefully, he'll respond to my message. I really don't want my faction to become a Mary Sue faction, so small and yet able to take down the biggest threats with a broken pinky finger. What do you think?Overlord347 (talk) 21:54, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

This would all be very recent events. On that note, how would the Mechanicus run things if the Tymon were placed under their authority?Overlord347 (talk) 22:26, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I figured as much. What if the Mechanicus had a viceroy that oversaw the Tymon, but mostly let them do their own thing so long as they complied with the demands made of them?Overlord347 (talk) 22:34, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Ok, I'll try and tone it down a bit. I just need to do a few more calculations. I'll let you know when I'm ready. I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 22:35, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

So this techpriest either has to be very open-minded, or I have to think of something else to give the Tymon some clout. I was originally going to go for mutually assured destruction for both sides; the Imperium would definitely be able to conquer the Tymon, but would put a serious dent in their resources and manpower. The Tymon could do a lot of damage, but would eventually be wiped out. That was why I first wanted them to have over a thousand worlds, to give them a fighting chance. But, if what's been talked about is any indication, I can't really do that.Overlord347 (talk) 22:46, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Would it be a stretch to say the Infernal Wings have around 1400? Just curious.

Would it be a stretch to say the Infernal Wings have around 1400? Just curious. I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 23:01, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, it would only make things worse. And making them powerful enough to rival the Imperium is not allowed, so I can't do that. I don't suppose that having good relations with certain Astartes chapers will help either, will it? They don't have enough sway.Overlord347 (talk) 23:03, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Ok, I think I'm done. How's the page look now?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 23:18, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I've already had it that they keep their reverse engineered tech origins secret. I could have sworn that the Imperium regarded aliens as at best slaves for humanity to exploit in some piece of canon. On a different note, how do Warp storms work?Overlord347 (talk) 23:30, December 1, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Now, Navigators are essential for Warp travel, and the Tymon have a drive that does not depend on the Warp. Could the Navigator guilds make a deal with the Tymon to keep away from their area of space in exchange for the Tymon never giving the Imperium the means to build this drive?Overlord347 (talk) 00:15, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I had a feeling that would be the case. Still, is it possible for a Navigator to refuse to go somewhere due to being too far out of range or too dangerous?Overlord347 (talk) 00:21, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, it seems that my only option is to make so the Imperium either does not know the Tymon exist, or if it does, has no idea where they are.Overlord347 (talk) 00:26, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, if the Imperium has no idea where they are, could relations still be formed?Overlord347 (talk) 00:38, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, essentially the Tymon will have to make themselves scarce, and at most be a rumor to the Imperium. I had really hoped that there could be an understanding between them, but aside from making them too powerful to conquer, that doesn't seem possible. And I had everything planned out for that. Darn.Overlord347 (talk) 00:56, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I even started a fanfiction with Ciaphas Cain going to forge diplomatic relations and it would spiral into another one of his misadventures. Maybe during the time of the Emperor this would have been possible, but I guess the Imperium is just too paranoid now. Maybe the Tymon can still aid its forces off and on, but I guess that's all.Overlord347 (talk) 01:14, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I just did. Since the Mechanicus considers knowledge to be a mark of divinity, and those that have it are sacred. So, by that logic, wouldn't the Mechanicus regard the Tymon as the holy grail of humanity because they are so advanced?Overlord347 (talk) 04:23, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

The Tymon take special care not to let that be common knowledge. As far as the Mechanicus is concerned, everything the Tymon have, they made on their own. Also, since Tymon have such knowledge, they would be considered sacred in accordance to the teachings of the Cult Mechanicus, so I would think the Mechanicus would be very protective of what they feel to be a remnant of the Dark Age of Technology. Of course, there might be a problem with the Mechanicus's belief of Machine Spirits; the Tymon would no doubt have to start performing rituals to please the one thing preventing the Imperium from taking them over.Overlord347 (talk) 04:44, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Not even if they joined the Mechanicus?Overlord347 (talk) 04:55, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I knew that part. I just thought that the Mechanicus would incorporate them, but also safeguard them, like a treasure trove. I wouldn't think it to be that big a stretch since they will happily loot Necron tombs, even though they are hostile. But, I could be wrong; the Imperium's politics aren't exactly the most liberal.Overlord347 (talk) 05:01, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, back to square one then.Overlord347 (talk) 05:11, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Alright, so my options are:

1. Make the Tymon so powerful the Imperium can't conquer them, which is out of the question.

2. Make it so the Imperium has no idea where they are and only know that they exist.

3. Something else that has yet to come to me.

Overlord347 (talk) 06:28, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Hey Supa. Cocytus is up! Can you look over it? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 19:28, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Especially the Mechanicus, I'd bet. Could they still offer help and then dissapear?Overlord347 (talk) 19:29, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Mostly out of pity.Overlord347 (talk) 20:08, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Did the Old Ones leave behind any relics of their technology?Overlord347 (talk) 22:47, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

And they are primarily psychic, right?Overlord347 (talk) 23:07, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So, could an old one relic act like the monolith in 2001 space odessey, causing further evolution?Overlord347 (talk) 23:24, December 2, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Not so much random, but was on a planet originally home to a xenos species that was uplifted and got wiped out millions of years ago for some reason. Would it work on humans, or would they be too evolved alreadyOverlord347 (talk) 00:18, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I meant not so much physical evolution, but mental, like being able to comprehend more than humanly possible. Unless, of course, that only works on creatures that are not sentient to start with.Overlord347 (talk) 00:27, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So I guess that giving the Tymon greater understanding via the artifact is a no go then. But then, how are the Jokaero able to do what they do?Overlord347 (talk) 00:36, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Ah, right. In order to gain that ability, they'd have had to have their genetics rewritten. Too bad. Okay, another question: the C'tan don't use psychic powers, yet they are capable of performing god-like feats. How do they do that?Overlord347 (talk) 00:49, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

That makes sense. I was toying with the idea that, since the c'tan engineered the pariah gene into humanity, they might have engineered a gene that lets humans tap into the physical universe. But I guess that would involve understanding physics to a level that the Emperor would find baffling.Overlord347 (talk) 01:25, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I blame Matt Ward. On the subject of Necrons, I know that some of their technology can be used, but not replicated by the Imperium. Could the Tymon do the same?Overlord347 (talk) 01:42, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I understand that measuring up to the Necron's level is nigh-impossible unless a Necron lord decided to educated the primitive races (which won't happen). But could the Tymon scavenge technology and be able to use them?Overlord347 (talk) 01:59, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

So even the Eldar have no idea how their technology works?Overlord347 (talk) 02:44, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Scary. If they ever fully awaken, then not even the Tyranids would pose a threat. And if any faction could actually manage to figure out how their stuff works, they'd be more powerful than the Eldar.Overlord347 (talk) 03:11, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Do the Mentors actually use technology based off of Eldar tech?Overlord347 (talk) 03:19, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I could have sworn that there was a piece of fluff that said they based some missles off of Eldar plasma technology. Overlord347 (talk) 03:58, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

I see. Anyway, I'm working on a character called Gilgamesh the Gilded Tyrant, a Tymon warrior who becomes a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. Do you think you could take a look at it?Overlord347 (talk) 04:08, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

No rush.Overlord347 (talk) 05:16, December 3, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Thanks for letting me know,I apoligize for  I am a tad new to 40k and am still ooking up a lot of the history. Thanks for saving me from looking like a dumbass.

If I were to make it so that conflict would be unavoidable for the Tymon, who would view the Imperium as too totalitarian and ineffective and want to liberate humanity from its rule, and since the Imperium believes that it has the divine right to assimilate all humans, would it be prudent to make their empire larger so as to provide a better capability to resist?Overlord347 (talk) 19:09, December 4, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

What does NCF stand for? I'm guessing it's something regarding an article being improper.Overlord347 (talk) 00:43, December 5, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Thanks for your input. I also would be grateful if you were to look at my other character, Anzillu the Caresser. By the way, is Vect really powerful enough to take on a Daemon Prince alone? Overlord347 (talk) 04:45, December 5, 2012 (UTC)Overlord347

Yeah Hi, you left a comment on my Space Marine Chapter. I was just wonderin: is there a limit to how many Space Marine Chapters I can make or can I make about 3 to 4 as long as I don't go overboard.

Londain17 (talk) 15:14, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Dear Supahbadmarine, I'm creating another Space Marine Chapter. Is it alright if I post it and let you read it so you can give me your opinion?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 21:49, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

I've posted the Silver Chains Chapter. Please tell me what you find to be unusual and incorrect.I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 00:49, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

So Supa, what do you think of my idea. Primarily the Midas Virus.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 02:58, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, so I've gone about revising the article for Silver Chains. Do you see anything else I should fix up?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 03:11, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing, what was your opinion on having an A.I. with the Silver Chains chapter?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 03:17, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, balls. Well, I'm a little bit worn out at the moment, but could you tell me which parts of eMeteaon were the most egregious? I'll take a look into them when I get back to it.I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 02:16, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, supah,

After reading my article about emetaeon, I was wondering what things I could do to make it a bit more grimdark. Do you have any suggestions? I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 20:15, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

please elaborate on the FTL section of your message. What is NCF? And as for the FTL tech Emetaeon uses, it's supposed to be pre-dark age, so I'm not sure whether or not it would be plausable to use slower and and somewhat safer travel methods at that time.

please elaborate on the FTL section of your message. What is NCF? And as for the FTL tech Emetaeon uses, it's supposed to be pre-dark age, so I'm not sure whether or not it would be plausable to use slower and and somewhat safer travel methods at that time. I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 21:34, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

So then I'd also have to use Warp travel? Huh. I'd though that I could go FTL without Warp after reading the Tymon article.

So then I'd also have to use Warp travel? Huh. I'd though that I could go FTL without Warp after reading the Tymon article.

Also, would I have to have navigators?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 21:51, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering if you'd allow artificial navigation based upon an experimental Ygahni Drive I've cooked up. If that doesn't work, then I'll go with the Navigators.

Hey Supa. I was wondering, any ideas for a warcry for the Viral Lords? I've been thinking but i got nothing.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:38, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Aight then, i got one now. Thanks for that -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 06:42, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hi I saw you blocked my page (ill fix it tonight) but I have a question: Can I still make my Chapter a mix of a Gene-seed and when I said initiate I didn't exactly meen that.. Anyway I'll fix it.TheDovakhiin6622 (talk) 07:38, December 14, 2012 (UTC)The Dovakhiin6622

Hey, supah, I'd like to ask about a technical issue. I tried putting my Tau sept under certain categories at the bottom of the page, but I also typed Tau incompletely as Ta, and now the I have a red link at the bottom. I don't suppose you can help me fix this?I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 04:15, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Supa, someone deleted the content on the Hellsing Regiment. But i do think it needs a usernamespace.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 01:22, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Okay then. 500 million seems reasonable, or 100 million, no?Bladiumdragon (talk) 08:11, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

DoneBladiumdragon (talk) 16:37, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Supa, could you delete the Onimongar for me? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 00:03, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there. Just wanted to say that these guys should be deleted. Been over a month and no change.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 20:35, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Supa, if my memory has not failed me, we have a rule about articles that are too short correct? Then my i direct your attention to this. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 20:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Supa, i just had an idea. A way to cure the Black Rage, or try anyway. I call it Project Whiteout. But the price is steep, very steep. So the Black Rage is a psychic imprint of Sang's memories of his final moments right? The memories of their Primarch affect his gene-sons.

What if they were made to forget their Primarch? Not just forget or blocked, the very memories are literally removed by some Dark Age or psychic means? Without remembering their primarch, with the memories gone, the effect should dissipate. Psychic wards fashioned by librarians could block the very word 'Primarch' from them.

Now this is just an radical idea and totally heretical, also limited to one chapter. But what do you think?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 21:11, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Supah someone has trolled the Emperors to do list. http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_To-Do_List Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 23:53, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

I approve of your recent heaviness of punishment and protection. --Lither My talk My wiki 01:26, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

I seem to remember some people chewing me out for the exact same line of thought earlier :P. Still happy to see that people are adopting what works. --Lither My talk My wiki 02:14, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Got nothing for the Red Thirst. But its the principle im thinking about. An experiment gone horribly wrong obviously, reviled with the utmost horror by BA successors everywhere. Trying to polish the idea of it, any ideas?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:38, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, but yes, you may as well get rid of him. Trulyrandom (talk) 13:28, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

The Cy:
Yo Tardir, who's this "PlagueNumber3" guy? He just bombed my Cy page calling it NCF and mocking me indirectly.Bladiumdragon (talk) 14:52, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Problem related to how this wiki handles Games Workshop's intellectual property
Hi, I left a message here a while ago about this problem. I left after working on bringing it to the attention of the other administrators, even though it seemed like it went no where. I was hoping to make it clear to someone who might be more active, as I believe one user, Legionnaire, was willing to address the problem. I also wrote up a line of code to put on your common.css page that will remove the Creative Commons icon, since the contents of this wiki are not and cannot be available under a Creative Commons license, as they are owned by Games Workshop.


 * Original message

User_talk:Cal_XD

You will also probably want to include this template at the end of every article, similar to the way we have done here:


 * Template:Gwip - The template
 * http://sturmkrieg.de/Vorlage:Armeegeschichteerstellung - Our example

Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Ordo Scharzenkommando 15:55, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Quoted from Supahbadmarine
 * Fair enough. I will speak with the other Admins on the issue. Though if we put that idea in place it is going to be a pain. We have close to two thousand articles to cover, and sadly not all of them are categorized. I am your master! At your service. Supahbadmarine (talk) 19:42, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I realize that by this point, with so many articles, it's going to be really hard to implement. Unfortunately, stuff like this happens when it isn't implemented early on, which it really should have been. Also, the IP notice also needs to go on every file page; this is sth that GW has actually specified on their IP policy page. As for categorization, I've found it useful to have a technical category (in our case Data) that all pages are a part of. It helps to use createboxes with pre-setup article formats that will automatically add the category; you can also use this method to ensure that all new articles contain the IP notice. Another thing that we do is we put the notice and everything that goes at the end of the article under a line that says do not edit below this point in the edit window, so that you don't get people removing it by accident.
 * One thing you could try doing to get the IP notice added to every article is to enlist the help of other users. You could make an announcement that users who are part of the project will be adding the new required notices, but that after a particular date, all users will be responsible for making sure it is on their own articles. That should get other users involved but won't create a "you need to add this template now" sort of situation.
 * It would also be good to make it clear that there are pre-formatted article createboxes available, and that users use that method of creating articles. I could possibly help you out with it, since it's going to be a big job, but it's important. Also, please don't forget about the "property" template issue, as it looks very much like it's attributing/claiming ownership over the article content. It also seems a bit territorial to put it at the top, so you might want to consider putting at the bottom the way that we do. It isn't that hard to make it clear that users should discuss changes to other users' fanfiction, and it's primary purpose is just to show who wrote it.
 * Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Ordo Scharzenkommando (contrib) (Edits) Contact: MW.org The Vault Fanon SK RW 22:13, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Previous message
 * You're preaching to the wrong guy. All of the current active Admins weren't around during the founding of this wiki. Furthermore it was well established when all of us joined. Anyway don't worry about it too much. Things will get done one way or another.
 * I figured that the old admins weren't still around, which is why I came by to raise the issue. When new admins come in, it's not likely that they're going to do things that should have been done at the founding, as it's going to be assume that anything like that would have already been done. Inquisitor Sasha Ehrenstein des Ordo Scharzenkommando (contrib) (Edits) Contact: MW.org The Vault Fanon SK RW 04:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

So i found three articles that dont meet the wiki's minimum size requirment.

Jonas Celain, Holy Wraiths, and this thing.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 00:22, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, i was wondering why i can't have a Space Wolves successor faction. I know according to strict 40K lore they havent been able to replicate the Canis Helix and the Wolf Brothers failed etcetera, but these are special... they still have a mutation which means they kinda adhere to the background-ish. Also, the over 1000 marines is simply because of the wealth of recruits they recieve, it's all in the history bit I think. my email is tom.oliver.moxham@gmail.com if you need to contact me more directly. Also, i only joined today so, go easy please :)

Tom

Glacier Walker (talk) 00:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, i'll limit the marines back to the regulatory 1000. Regarding my beloved Walkers, are they to find a new legion from which to descend? Since they are based on Space Wolves, and Grand Master Azrael wouldnt be too happy having a bunch of frozen wolf spirits roaming The Rock, do you think that Great Khan Jubal would allow them to be formed in the peaks of Mundus Planus??

Thanks,

Tom

Glacier Walker (talk) 01:03, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Supaaaaaaaa... Please can you check my Walkers? Cheers bro

Tom

Glacier Walker (talk) 19:07, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Supah, just putting past you my new SM Chapter, The Pilgrims, for Admin approval as they have a size of 800-1200 Marines. The reason for this is that, due to the nature of there deployment there actual numbers are disputed. The Supreme Grand Master says that they are 800 strong, but critics are saying that the frequency of their involvement in recent campaigns suggest numbers closer to 1200. Trulyrandom (talk) 17:10, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Supah, not to sure that you are aware of my last message, so I'm just drawing it to your attention. Trulyrandom (talk) 18:09, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

That's the general idea, though they only move in small unit's of 10 or so men. So, do I have approval? Trulyrandom (talk) 21:10, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Supah, i found some interesting stuff, whilst scouring the treasure troves of imperial knowledge, all accounts of teh primarch's disapearance from the gene-labs under the himalayas say that ALL 20 primarch's were whisked away, not just 18, leaving the 2 lost ones to be destroyed. Can you add... i think it was dirge, yeah can you tag or tell dirge about this, it's got my creative juices flowing and i think we should write a mini-saga/spinoff/non-canon account of one of them.

Tom

Glacier Walker (talk) 11:15, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

We got a anon vandalizing again. Ordo Draconis, Screaming Eagles (look it up, ncf), and Sytarion

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 01:19, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Supah i think i have come across two trolls one, with the IP of 86.217.30.213 has edited both the Sytarion and your Ordo Draconis ‎adding on the Sytarion quote "Sytarion is basically Nurgle, but more wimpy and generic, with an unnecessarily convoluted history. Which is a performance" and on your Ordo Draconis he/she added "It is not, in fact, related to dragons at all. Despite its name. Don't ask, apparently the members of the Inquisition tasked with coming up with its name did not know High Gothic and simply threw in a High-Gothic-sounding name they thought sounded cool. They probably didn't know what dragons were either, otherwise, they would have found something less blatantly incongruous. It is only after the job was done and the papers signed that they learnt that it meant more or less "Order of the Dragon", and they couldn't fix it anymore" and the other troll 99.95.201.23 which edited on the Screaming Dragons  "This Article is full of Heresy and more importantly filled to the top with problems. A shame to the hobby as a whole author you should feel sorry. The Screaming Dragons were, as previously stated, hastily assembled on a hastily assembled world. They were accidentally overlooked by the majority of the Ordo Xenos, Ordo Hereticus, Field Marines, Ecclesiarchy, Administratum and their own founding chapters during the preparations of the Damocles Gulf Crusade. The Dragons eventually turned into Excommunicate Traitoris, being obsessed with all manner of technology, Xenos or not, sometimes even with Imperial technology. With the combination of this, and the fact that the Planetary Governor of their homeworld was a Tau sympathizer, it was merely a matter of time before the planet of Tiberius, the five Imperial Guard regiments on it, and the Screaming Dragons joined the Greater Good, despite their conditioning and the vastly more advantageous opportunities that Chaos, or even the Dark Eldars, could have offered them". I just thought this might be brought to your attention Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 01:20, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

also seeping through the recent edits the ip 96.241.66.52 has also trolled the Screaming Dragons, Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 01:24, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok i have now found out all edits on the screaming dragons are trolls or one troll using different IP's Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 01:29, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

BalrogOfMorgoth (talk) 18:16, January 9, 2013 (UTC)Hey, I'd just like to say thanks for preventing vandals from ruining my article, I should have locked it while I could.BalrogOfMorgoth (talk) 18:16, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Supah a anon or a few anons amy have been trolling the Alfa Legion since the 19th of december, I'm am not sure however because it is a humor article so could you please sort through the recent edits to see for yourself Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 09:42, January 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * may (not amy) Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 09:45, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

After reading through it again i dont think it was trolled sorry for the false alarm if it was Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 10:06, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Supah, I need some help thinking up slave races for the Tymon. Names, racial characteristics, those things.Overlord347 (talk) 19:45, January 15, 2013 (UTC)Overlord347

Basically, menial labor and other tasks that the Tymon don't want to do. And some pit fighters and sappers (basically suicide bombs) as well. I've already got a page started.Overlord347 (talk) 00:27, January 16, 2013 (UTC)Overlord347

Hi, I'm a new member to the wiki, and have recently published the start for my story Rise to Glory - I: The Titan. However, while editing it i failed to find anything that would allow me mark it as Under Construction, or to sign it even (not including the signature). I know i must have just missed something, but i could really use that info. --TenHalo (talk) 18:12, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

You mean the planet killer? Plus, I thought there were plenty of other superweapons that could destroy entire planets with one shot.Overlord347 (talk) 22:43, January 25, 2013 (UTC)Overlord347

Well, not including the Necron World Engine and Aeonic Orb, I think the Nova Cannon can do it, since it apparently has a blast radius of a small planet. And the Two-stage cyclonic torpedoes apparently can do it with one shot, unless I'm reading it wrong. I got the ideas from star wars. Planet-killing weapons seem to be pretty darn common. Overlord347 (talk) 22:58, January 25, 2013 (UTC)Overlord347

Huh. Guess I was overestimating the planet-destroying power of everyone. So, should I tone it down to maybe a few sustained blasts then? Plus, how long should the Resonance Torpedoes take to make a sun go supernova? Or is that too much power?Overlord347 (talk) 23:07, January 25, 2013 (UTC)Overlord347

Hey Supa, somethings off with the Blaze Raven page. I try to edit, or atleast add bulletpoints, and the spacing and coding goes off. Sections of text appear elsewhere and things wont align. Do you know whats wrong?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 18:29, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, mind you they were in the campaign and character sections, also trivia. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 18:32, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Firstly, no. Second, no. Third, yes. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 18:40, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa, im looking at the page right now, after you edited, and its still totally messed up. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 18:47, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Alright the, thanks for trying though. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 19:11, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa, i had an idea. We all know of the whole issue with loyalist traitors that came up right? I thought of something. Horus Heresy-era loyalist, but not beyond. Like i thought of a loyalist Death Guard who died on Istvaan III. Or a loyalist Iron Warrior who held out against the traitors (yeah i know thats been done in canon).

As a matter of fact, do we have any Crusade-era characters? Just from then?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 01:48, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa, you deleted Nova Anima? Why so? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:59, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Supah i need to ask you somthing. Would it be possible for a planet to keep some of its old traditions and system of government after being incorperated into the Imperium? For example on my Dance of Shadows story on the planet i am writing on, it still retain's the four house's or families in it's government and has a lot of power and influence despite being under the governer. Do you think this would work with canon. Just making sure before i pursue this any further Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 09:50, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that to me, I can now continue the story just as i planned Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 20:17, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Supah. I have a question (well two). Is it feasible for humanity to have left the Milky Way galaxy and travelled to the Andromeda galaxy during the DAoT? If so, is the idea of a crusade force to have been sent out to find this human settlement? I am asking because I had an idea of a chapter of Space Marines that were formed during the Great Crusade (in a form of Founding 1.5) to go find these settlements which resulted in the chapter returning to the Milky Way completely distraught and have started to fight for the greater good of humanity (even if that means fighting against the Imperium) due to the suffering they saw on these settlements thanks to the Tyranids. Thanks, RoyalBackhouse (talk) 21:07, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

SUPAH!!! your dream are forfilled the ninth member has come. ME!!!...or him? no ME it getting to my head already, now where's the bathroom? Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 02:38, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

hello was hoping you might be able to help me in my creations. hope to speak with you soon.Fox2013 (talk) 22:40, January 31, 2013 (UTC) fox2013

Hey, Supah,

Remember when I talked to you about creating a psyker program a month or so back?

I also talked to Dirge about it, too, and he said it was fine. I made it so that the program was started by a polypsykana inquisitor and that the projects made more disciplined, loyal, and resiliant psykers. If you're ok with taking a look at it, the I'll post it up and see what parts I should probably remedy.I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 06:43, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

i would like for you to see my changes, and thanks for caring to see if i was ok, i can take consructive crictism just keep at that no ranting please. thank youFox2013 (talk) 01:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

i also updated pyronFox2013 (talk) 02:01, February 3, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Supah, I've put up the ARGUS Program. It's not entirely finished, but that's how much I've got so far. I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 22:36, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

For recruits being inserted among other organizations, I know it's a risky move, but I think I may be able to explain some things. First, there should be psykers who exist in other organizations and may eventually be taken by the Black Ships, so I think I can get at least a few trained recruits this way. Secondly, with lower class psykers, the projects should allow for greater control, enough that the recruit may be inserted with relative safety and their handlers may be given warning on possible warp corruption. Lastly, the program was supposed to give an inquisitor a pool of psyker operatives for whatever missions he needed them for, but, like you said, they can be temporarily attached to other retinues. I suppose I should make that part of the article.

It could be either. Depends upon which was more convenient for the Inquisitor and the recruit at the time.I do not care! He shall fear my wrath, for I have a fistful of Roofies! (talk) 05:58, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Supah, I edited the Dark Knights. If you could look, it would be great. ThanksNOOBZ4LIFE 00:23, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

thanks for the complement, i already fixed the grey knight thing. i'm aware that the geneseed mix dosen't give an advantage, it what comes of such a thing that i'm building up to. if you read my crusader, and pyron stories you'll see it talks about the cursed crusader whom is now called legion. also if you wanted to know i serve tzeentch, and khorne, but don't tell them, they'll kill if they find out.Fox2013 (talk) 23:27, February 5, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

hello again, well i'm creating a new character called hell knight, and was wondering if i'd need a warning template for the name. i'm trying to do a bit better on this one and was hoping u could check it out to see if it could work. just constructive criticism please no ranting or bashing, and thank you for your time, by the way im still editing it, so it won't stay as it is. thanks again.ps may tzeentch,bless with something that won't screw you over,  and that khorne won't hurt badly.Fox2013 (talk) 00:57, February 6, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

i know it seems like i'm spamming you with messages, but i was wondering if i could join the thousand editors warband. i know i serve tzeentch, and khorne but ive taken enough skulls for him, that i don't think he'll mindFox2013 (talk) 01:07, February 6, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

iin my first message i ment to say he called hell  knightFox2013 (talk) 01:11, February 6, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

I actually know about that though i didn't consider it. BTW about the Tau Resurgence, i've been rehauling them and i was wondering if you have an opinion or if you have an ideas to make the whole alliance issue more believeable.

Because i working on way to make DAT more grimdark and i think its been set that Primarchs will die and that while the Imperium is better off, its in no less peril. Its greatest heros are dying one by one. Kurze, Perturabo, Angron and maybe Manus are signed off already. Its all in progress.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 21:24, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thats a interesting idea. I perhaps think the xeno part will be more distant, just feels out of place to have so many aliens in coop with the Imperium. But could make the Resurgence a little more bittersweet, just not sure how to put the words in.

Relations aside, what do you think of the rest of it? Im just trying to clean it up so its not silly.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 23:17, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

i'm wondering if i'm allowed to use this stuff in my profile, and hoping to see if you could let me know Fox2013 (talk) 23:40, February 6, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Hey Supah. Thanks for making the Dark Knights not NCF anymore. My thanks, NOOBZ4LIFE 23:16, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Feel free to make any changes, but if you would, please let me, know. Again, my thanks, LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 23:19, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

I left a message a while back saying you could, but I think you where away at the time. So yes basically, but wait for me to round up all of the articles related to him before you start to delete things. Trulyrandom (talk) 23:33, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. Also, can you check the Herixus culture again. I've made some changes to try and get across that there all unique, but I would like a non-bias opinion. Trulyrandom (talk) 00:10, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ok someone is trolling the Alfa Legion by deleting sections and adding offencive comments. I've already contacted Dirge but he hasnt responded Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 01:06, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa. Could you go over the Bronze Claws and tell me what you think?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 07:36, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Supah. Igor97Wow sent me a message concerning the size of the Empyrean Dragons. I just want to foward his message to you.

"Okay to put it simply my chapter is known for gathering with its successor chapters every so often and out of some volunters and fresh Aspirants they they make a new Chapter and send it on a Crusade. A nother reason why they have a surplus of troops is because they send their foces to far of battlefronts so they dont have to worry about repleneshing losses or beign short on manpower when needed. The current reason for the extra numbers is a CRUSADE AGAINST ORKS that is in the make that will help clean out the Ork menace from the Scarus Sector."

Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 01:42, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Supah, me OrkMarine. I have le question. How long would Angron lasted if he hadnt became a demon prince. I plan on having angron loyal for my AT (which I should really start working on). Regards OrkMarine

Orkmarine 01:43, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Its all good. And i like the Black Shield idea as well. BTW still working out the specific details to their incorportation of Xeno tech. Once the ball gets rolling it'll be easy, its just the springboard i need so to speak.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:47, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Thats interesting! Could enhance combat preformance. Any ideas for a "spring board" for the further use of xeno tech?

Actually ironically, being Astartes makes them even more vulnerable to the Midas Virus. Power Armor really is a second skin to them and it makes for the perfect vector for the virus to spread through a corrupt a space marine.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 05:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hm, not sure if i want to go that way, though a good idea it is. First of all, a Halo Device makes you ugly as hell. As in "Holy freaking Emperor, what the **** kind of leprosy is that? There is someting horribly wrong with you!" Second... actually i think thats it, makes you too ugly to believe. :/ Im thinking something more as a result of circumstances and conveniance.

They have entrenched against alien armies with limited support and severly strain supply chains. I was thinking perhaps turning alien artillery on their titan to help stem the tides. Or something more memorable.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 06:19, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

====Like i said the reason is a CRUSADE. That means several years of prolonged campaigning trough Ork infested planets making sure you got every little snotling so there are no more chances of the reapering. That means no reinforcements, no rest and there WILL BE CASUELTIES. With the extra numbers of Battle-Brothers losses can be replenished faster, more troopes can be deployed to the theatre of war, and there is a greater chance of more Brothers coming out of the battle in one piece.====

====Igor94wow (talk) 19:13, February 18, 2013 (UTC)Igor94wowIgor94wow (talk) 19:13, February 18, 2013 (UTC)====

thanks Supah, I will have to kill himm off somehow before that. Also, i found this picture for a chaos Saignius do you think it suits? Regards OrkMarine

Orkmarine 23:12, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

thanks. thats actuually a really good idea, I never thought of that. Regards OrkMarine

Orkmarine 00:36, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

i was wondering if i am allowed to make fictional book for my hell knight. not a story of his life, its an evil spell book. please get back to me on it.Fox2013 (talk) 09:25, February 23, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Hey, and thanks again on my recent article. I have noticed on your page that you are experienced with stories with daemons, and I would like to ask if you had any of those ideas on how to help out my recent story on Ballisic, the Assault on Kaardeth. If you have time, check it out and feel free to mention any comments or ideas. Here is the link.

For the Great Father, and For the Emperor! 05:35, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for double posting, but I have to ask (though I think my article is acceptable since you didn't comment before). "For example, there are to be no lost legions or primarches, no real tale of the Blood Ravens and no Emperor returning to life." Does this mean my Blood Raven Marines' stories are ok? I don't add any new campaigns of the Blood Ravens, I try to follow their storyline with my character, but I may add in the future stories of his battles alone, or with a squad (such as the Deathwatch). Much appreciated.

For the Great Father, and For the Emperor! 06:09, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully I can sort it out more once I fill in the Imperium time, I tried to sort out the reasons for why he had did what he did. And alright, I'll rethink the concept in the Warp and change it as soon as possible. Hmm, daemons are that strong? Never realized that. About the grammar, I use a College program that helps grammar perfectly (given from school), so maybe it's too educated to read? I could try dulling it down a bit, if that's what you're asking (not trying to sound offensive). Everything to me makes sense, and to people I know in real makes sense to them aswell (and they're not so familiar with Warhammer haha). But yeah, I'll go in and re-edit what you told me to as soon as possible, and thanks for the advice. For the Great Father, and For the Emperor! 07:58, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

hey, sorry to bother you again but I have a question. Would you happen to know how many planets there are in the Tau empire? Regards Ork

Orkmarine 03:48, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa. I've made new additions to the Bronze Claws. Some fun heresy if you would take a look.

Also, recent flash of inspiration. Involving a Maelstrom Warders-esque group of UM-successors, whose efforts revolve around around the defense of worlds once a part of the 500 Worlds of Ultramar. This includes one chapter, who is so fanatical to the teaches of guilliman it makes the UM seem reasonable. The UM ideals taken so far its Excommunication worthy! Lots of cool names too.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 06:56, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yo, supah. Chat moderator spot open if you want it. Sorry, I forgot to say that my wiki is now open, and of you want, you can have the chat moderator spot. --LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 12:42, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

thanks supah, Orkmarine 22:49, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Supah. I was just wondering if you knew  how to change what is says when you go into a chat for a wiki. LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 00:20, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thats ok. If you could, please go my wiki(on my page) and go to the chatroom so we can talk? LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 00:48, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, I was going through wikia for a while and I while I found a few wiki's that one can make their own Sci Fi, or Fantasy wiki's. I found no wiki's for both of these, or other settings such as post apocalyptic or alternate timelines. Would I still be able to make a wiki for this? Regards Ork

Orkmarine 03:19, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

alrighty, I just didnt want to get banned from wikia or something like dat

Orkmarine 03:27, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. I dont know what happened in chat, you just kind of vanished, it didn't even showed that you left. So i dont know if you saw my points on Dark Places. Did you?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 05:40, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, so i was there for the next half-hour texting to myself only when i looked at the Activity Page did it show i was alone. XP

While there i made a few prompts for Dark Places. One was about one part being weakly worded, but it seems you fixed that? As for the prompts, it involves Youknowwho. I would list them right now if you feel like it may spoil something. Im sure it doesn't its just a more epic description.

BTW will you use that name? You know which.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 15:08, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Talk Template
This seems like it's getting no attention. Could you maybe take a look? - TidusTehSacrificer357 - 23:12, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems Ajax disagrees. :/ - 23:28, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see why, as he is not to blame. He had no knowledge of this. I'm just asking you remove the ownership notice. - 23:44, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, of course, go ahead. :) - 00:08, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, we have been busy and the names for the months and the days have been added onto the project blog. Also now that is done the others were thinking of getting the project started onto articles. (note. i have messaged you here because i thought that you would be more likely to check these messages) Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 06:18, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, everyone seems to be at odd's on how to start the project. Do you want to start the main page or something to get things going? Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 11:01, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

My idea for chapter's colour scheme OverlordRick (talk) 02:57, March 8, 2013 (UTC)OverlordRick

My idea for colour scheme. Let me know what you think

OverlordRick (talk) 03:03, March 8, 2013 (UTC) OverlordRick

Hey Supah, me and Ghost thought it was about time to start the project, and we have done as such. So far we have only made a Main page (with not much on it) and a category for the project. if you can come on chat over here so we can continue this further. Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 05:25, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 19:28, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

its not permanent it says semi as in the momment the enemy is killed they'll turn on eachother.Fox2013 (talk) 19:34, March 16, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Supah, that Gamemastermax guy, he's made a new account. Its called Supahgoodmarine. His IP cant be banned because he shares his IP with Noobz4life. Thought I should contact you about it all. Here is his page http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Supahgoodmarine

Orkmarine 23:27, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

hey supah are self inserts ok for role playingFox2013 (talk) 00:08, March 20, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Hi Supah. Just wondering if it was in Cannon to make a Chaos God LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 02:36, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me create one, i shall look into the needs for a Chaos God. Also OrkMarine is helping me create the page

Noobz, LivingInTheLifeInTheLiveOfTheNoob (talk) 03:43, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Tzentchin (from the Purgatory Program)
May I use Tzentchins for a warband?

Pyrak (talk) 21:51, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

"OH MIGHTY LORD AND MASTER..." Yeah, it's me... And him, apparently. I noticed something odd, and asked you about it without really getting an answer. Several of the chapter articles on this wiki. They claim to be decended from multiple "parent chapters'... "In some kind of inter-galactic gay fuck-up, I blame the Space Wolves." Uh.. yeah... I couldn't find any mention of this in the lore, but an entry on the Lexicanum Geneseed page mentions some form of cross-contamination of the geneseed, or provention of such, is that what they mean when they use this kind of term? Having cross contaminated geneseed, that gives the new chapter a unique set of mixed(?) traits?

If you could get back to me.. "And me.. No wait, him."... I'd be grateful. LegionXIII (talk) 16:06, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

please and thank you

Igor94wow (talk) 18:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)Could you please fix the content bar as well? Please and Thank You VERY MUCh.Igor94wow (talk) 18:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

From the sounds of that then we havy waaaaaaay too many mixed parentage chaptersm oh well, guess it doesn't matter really, I was just wondering how it worked, as I can't find mention of how the geneseed mixes. LegionXIII (talk) 20:49, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Meh Pages (Deletation)
Hey Supah I was wondering if you could do me a very big favour and delete EVERY page of mine and I mean EVERY page. If you can do this thank you if you can`t oh well thanks anyways Ghost47 8:48 PM 3/27/2013

The Deletation of Meh pages
No worries Supah I am FAR from done writing on the 40K fanon im just starting fresh so that I won't be held back in my mind by those pages and thanks. Ghost47 9:04 PM 3/28/2013

Hey Supah I also have a question for you. What would you think of a "empire" from BEFORE the imperium did the Crusade and that a small fraction of that empire's fleet went through time by a fluke in the Warp and landed in current times? Ghost47 9:17 3/28/2013

that user was me,somehow i got signed out when i was making changes75.66.170.58 13:23, March 31, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

where is the humor template and how do i use it.Fox2013 (talk) 13:26, March 31, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

checkout my vlad and the 12th black crusade story,i want it to flow right.Fox2013 (talk) 14:11, March 31, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Supha

I'd like to report some articles which are heavily NCF which have been written by Fox2013. All of them possesses NCF aspects, could you try and talk to him about it? Or add the Tag?

--Imposter101 (talk) 09:09, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

i had already talked with legion.infact imposter was there.we discussed about my stories.personally i had enough with imposter,apparently he didn't lisren to what legion had to say.and my stories do not have non-canon-fiction.its all perfectly in canon.Fox2013 (talk) 17:39, April 7, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

i have an idea for a new heresy timeline,and was hoping you could helpFox2013 (talk) 18:27, April 7, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

oh and before i forget,can u take that thing off my harkon character.

i sent that last messageFox2013 (talk) 18:41, April 7, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

For the love of god Supah! GOD I SAY! Tear down the Argent Vanguard from the wiki Navigation! It burns my eyes! Replace it, replace it! The Sons much more deserve their name than the Vanguard! LegionXIII (talk) 17:42, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Where does the quote "This Article reeks of Matt Ward..." come from? The Pirate Lord (talk) 16:52, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Supa. The plague lord has been posting unessecarily rude comments on article TPs. I dont appreciate it.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 23:53, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

well i would like to know what changes i should make? Primarch11 02:50, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa i was wondering, what do you think of Dedaran? More specifically, this the force he commands reasonable? It was originally just a Grand Company, but apparently Warsmiths command Grand Battalions, and legion battalions are nominally 5 companies.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:59, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

i see well ill think of something, should I let you know when i do? and what if Tom doesn't reply? Primarch11 12:26, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

hey i came up with this idea for a secret Space Marine Chapter and just wanted to gain approval from the community owners or whatever its called so i can do it. Im not sure what their name will be but the chapter will be but their purpose is to hunt down any rogue elements of any of the Imperium factions, such as traitor inquisitors, marines, Imperial Assassins or other individuals that could pose a threat to the Imperium if they defect. What do you think? Primarch11 16:05, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

can you have more than one chaos god patronFox2013 (talk) 00:11, April 19, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

how do you use the space marine painter at bolterandchainsword.com?Fox2013 (talk) 06:59, April 20, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

are you sure cause its not working for meFox2013 (talk) 07:08, April 20, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

i'm trying but its not working. can you give me the excat process for it?Fox2013 (talk) 07:35, April 20, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Adminship
Yo Supah, I wanna be an admin. Anything I've got to do to get it? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:45, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Tarnations. Well thanks for the help anyways. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:27, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if Tom has heard or not but I was thinking what if the Brotherhood of the Faithful chapters were chapters that were founded to deal with one of the nine traitor legions? And in order to do that they had to combine the combat style of both their founding legion and the chosen traitor legion? reply Primarch11 20:27, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

hello, i am continiuosly encountering a problem with the infobox military conflicts template, in the segment designated for the first combatant group i keep seeing -style="border-right: 1px dotted #6B6A6A- code bit appearing however when looking into the source page i see no code that even has this ingraned and when i searched for a full letter by letter breakdown of the infobox military conflicts i ran into a number of contradicting templates. if you know the solution to this problem could you help me...TY Plaguenumber3 (talk) 05:06, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

well i could use some suggestions if you have any ideas? i really rather not lose these chapters because Tom and I worked so hard on them. Primarch11 05:21, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey  Supah im T42 the noob on da block read er profile and ya sound awsome was wonderin if you could mabey read one of my articals (THE ONLY FING ONE i got) King-Goy (iFK how make links yet) you did such an amazing job with Mutacrat id like some feedback from an expert if its coo wit u.T42 (talk) 03:09, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

you might want to update about the spacemarine painter. that things has not been working for me.Fox2013 (talk) 17:28, April 23, 2013 (UTC)fox2013

Got time for chat? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 22:46, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ill deffenantly work on the Over powerd aspects see if i can make it work i tought i was adding a serious achillies heel with the boron based lifoform bit tho see i wanted it so a king gou could fight a space marine on near even terms because there is supossed to be few in number in compariosn to other factions and they tend to hit and run..i will admit agents offing kill temas in alot im just trying to stess the combat abilities mabey i should instead say they are cpable of resisting kill teams and evading them. and The only thing i drew from the Sangilli were the energy Swords sorry its in my vison the Federation is actually an extragalctic Empire made of of rulling king goy tribes as opossed to a religos body with a number of client speices. if anything thier more like the Jilahane from halo. thank you so much for the feedback if you can contiue helping me thad be great!

also ima dunce how do singnautre?T42 (talk) 23:28, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Never mindT42 (talk) 23:29, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok so i made some changes that should level it out sorry i dont like to be overpowered but its an easy habit to get into thanks for pulling me back ;J if you would be so kind as to see if the lastes incarnation is ok id be gratefull.

Also i know its over the top and all but the Massive ship hold serious significants its thier main base of ops in this galaxy.T42 (talk) 23:53, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Supa. Trolls. Sons of Lucifer. -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 19:55, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa i was wondering. Why again did you think the Magna Warriors should have alien allies? Just curious.

Also i wanted to make the MW around 1800 strong as a result of illegal expansion, accelarated geneseed cultivation and other Astartes joining. Mind you this causes many problems including instability, mutations (purge) and some marines occasionally turning to Chaos while giving them there strength to last.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 00:44, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey supah its t42 again just wonderin if u could checkout  the New Ork Tribe i made, see if its any good. Ive been meaning to ask other admins and such as well i just wanna make shure its ok.T42 (talk) 00:58, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa i may have some bad news, sorta. I dont really like the pages that i made for EoM and it may be best to just delete them. Opinion? Thought it would be best to inform you first considering EoM is you project and my articles make up a chunk of it.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 17:28, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Take care of it as in, adopt or delete it? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 18:07, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

i just got an idea for the next part of the Crossing Paths. Primarch11 18:21, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

ok so Zeke's group is still moving throughout the abandon city, looking for someway off world. As they are walking Zeke decides to flip the coin when they stop at a fork in the road, using the coin to which way they go. However this time the coin lands on the bad luck side and soon after a group of Shadow Warriros of Setsu appear, also seeking the stone, since Setsu had some of his subordinates follow Grim in case they located a stone, which they did when they arrived to the planet. Ill let you know which Shadow Warriors soon but anyway the Shadow Warriors chase after Zeke's group, who are forced to move deeper into the city but they are soon, inaverdetly (not good spelling that word) saved by Grim's Eldar friends, who realize that they can't allow Setsu to gain the stone (They don't know that Setsu is an Eldar). As they fight the Shadow Warriors they contact Ed and inform them of their location while at the same time the forces of Chaos detect their presence in the city as well. What do you think? Primarch11 20:08, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

hello Supah my friends call me Scipio i must ask if you look at my Chapters page the Lunar Knights and the story me and my freinds from my local games workshop have made for it.

I am also new to the wiki if you could give a quick run down of how thing run that would be great.

Regards

Scipio Xypher (talk) 16:10, April 28, 2013 (UTC)Legatte Scipio Xypher of the Second Company

I don't understand? Why is it so terribly non canon for Cain to have had a sister? I mean if we can have alternate timelines and all....? Honestly she isn't as bad (or as good) as all those titles make her sound.

So if I take out that part of her back story would that be all right? Can I keep the name Cain? What if I change to Kane?Kadjah Thoris (talk) 21:26, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Already done. Hope that's good enough. Kadjah Thoris (talk) 21:43, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

thanks for the feed back. I will run every thing by my friends and we will make changes to the best of our abilities the changes will not be as swift as other admins may enjoy but they will be done. also knowing a few of my friends who sadly dont like rules they may ask for me to throw away the page i will let you know what the outcome is when we all figure out what we want done, thank you for your help.

Regards

Scipio Xypher (talk) 22:51, April 28, 2013 (UTC)Legatte Scipio Xypher of the Second company

As for the grey knights its as simple as the iquasition telling them they are

chaos influenced also they are using chaos weapons which is frowned upon and would easily gain them a state of heretics also the inquisition has already said they are heretics and grey knights hunt all evil and as it says that would is consantly attacked by chaos and the iquisiton is trying to elimanate the last of them.

But as for founding i will change that change some other things here and there. there is still a ton of story i need to complete but noooo it is nothing like matt ward i dont see the marines teaming up with tyrinids just yet (

Morksheer (talk) 04:15, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

So, what else do I have to do to get off 'NCF'? BTW I think that Matt Ward crack is below the belt! Kadjah Thoris (talk) 15:27, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'll change it to reach if you like but while she's going there she doesn't stay. In fact she gets popped back nearly a century to the Calixis sector during an appearance of the Tyrant Star.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:10, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'll change it to reach if you like but while she's going there she doesn't stay. In fact she gets popped back nearly a century to the Calixis sector during an appearance of the Tyrant Star.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:12, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

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Hey Supa! I was saw that you made some additions to the Cavalier Arcana among other thing and that got the gears turning. I thought for the Goliath Soldiers that they were recruited criminals and feral populations. And that they are created via *insert technobabble* vat grown gorans and various surgical grafts. Maybe use Combat Stims. But whats more, to ensure loyalty they become addicted and physically reliant on the drugs to prevent their body's from breaking down. Also their armor could be semipowered battleplate, inhancing their strength but no life support or autosenses.

Also had names for Brotherhood Legios. Legio Vecors and Legio Sophus.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 01:12, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, gene-forged supermen from gene-forged normal men. And in they are less human like that then maybe their armor is grafted onto them, like with the Thallax. Psycho-conditioned in their incubation tanks, mercilessly trained and armed. But still genetically inferior and perhaps even genetically unstable?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 01:24, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that. For what it's worth I created the blank pages so I could put the pictures on (they are stored on one computer) and am now busily filling them up.

How am I doing with Athaliah? I changed Jericho Sector to Reach.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 14:18, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I really don't mean to be all this trouble... I'm guessing posting my versions of the 'Lost Primates' and their legions would be MAJORLY canon unfriendly?

Yeah, I meant Primarchs. And it is a bummer but I can see the point. I mean pretty much everybody has their own different versions of those two intriguing gentlemen I would guess. Maybe there should be a wiki just for them?Kadjah Thoris (talk) 14:49, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

So if I make her assignment somewhere other than the Jericho reach - a totally fanon reach recently returned to Imperial control would that be all right? I'm getting the impression it's better not to use canon established people and locations here (which is directly contrary to my usual practice - I should perhaps say that Athaliah is a character in a fic)

I invented the webway bit before I knew as much as I do now about it but I thought that time inside the way was very uncertain? So it would be better to send them through the warp somehow? Maybe a rupture in the webway? Is that possible? Not a gate at all but a rupture? or maybe making it a warp tear would be even better.... I mean Space Marines might be crazy enough to go through such if it were their only way out. Especially if this is actually a weak point that manifests in several different places; The Slinnar Drift; Wherever Athaliah picks them up; the sector they end up in.

The idea was that the gate was formerly located on an eldar world completely blown away by the Fall and that the drift owes it's peculiar character to said gate.... I guess I could still use the missing Consecrators (that's all right isn't it?) but just have them emerge somewhere other than Drift. It would make sense since seach parties have failed to find any sign of them.

I landed her in Calixis Sector because I wanted to identify the Black Sun of Medrengrad with the Tyrant Star - also described as black. The Black Sun crusade was to be a battle against a major manifestation of said Star. I thought using game backgrounds would be better than all my own but if you think differently I'm sure I can create a sector of my own no problems. No reason why they couldn't have a Terror star too right? Which turns out to be Medrengrad trying to get through.

I fear I've given you and other readers a false impression. The Consecrators aren't following Athaliah she's being sucked along in their wake. They pop out in Calixis or whereever and meet the Phoenix Brethren and discover the date. They are all set to move on with the Brethren's help, the Consecrators back to their chapter and Athaliah to the local Cardinal when the Tyrant Star (or Black Sun) manifests in the Brethren's system. Naturally the Consecrators join their brothers. Athaliah is called upon by them to use her Confessorial eloquence to calm the populace and keep them orthodox at which she has a success that startles her. Huge battle insues Black Sun fades away. Astartes suspicious, believe it's merely moved on in search of easier prey. They're right. Black Sun manifests at a more important system further down the warp current. Frantic efforts to gather forces. Athaliah continues to preach and quite inadvertantly finds herself recognized as religious leader of the Crusade not least because she's good at coordinating with the Space Marines who have responded.

Athaliah has a curious quasi-maternal relationship with the Astartes (hence Mother of the Astartes) but the real reason she's more than just another mortal to them is a Watcher in the Dark with the Consecrators attached itself to her early on setting her apart in their eyes.

Any of that help?Kadjah Thoris (talk) 16:05, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

I SEE. I didn't consider the problems you might have with cyber war waging offended fans - that's rarely an issue with fanfic. If you think the relationship with the Astartes is problematical I'll just drop that aspect of her personality from the description. But she will have to continue to have contact with them.

Athaliah pretty much does part company from the Astartes, except for liaison work after the first battle in the Brethren's home system. Dropping the link between the Black Sun and Tyrant Star isn't that much of a problem. What do you think of the name Aliris sector?

How risky is it to warp travel without a navigator? What if the Consecrators find an abandoned Rogue Trader ship and try to make a short hop - which turns out not to be all that short?

Okay. I've removed all references to 'Mother of the Astartes' and changed Jericho Reach to Hades Sector and Calixis to Aliris Sector.

Damn. So I'm back to the Craftworld and Webway. It'll just have to be a ruptured section with warp currents drifting through it. Possibly because of the Slinnar gate being left open?

I did feel a bit that way at first but now I understand your concerns about canon purity in the interests of a peaceful life I have come over entirely. Just stop comparing me to Matt Ward!!!! ;-)Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:24, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Actually I should thank you. I am going to have lots of fun creating my very own sector instead of having to search wikis for info about Calixis so I don't contradict anything. Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:32, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

It's GONE!!! I love you!!!Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:38, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

okay so here is what i have so far. an unknown ancient race appears from the Halo Zone, unleashing attacks on multiple Imperial Worlds. The nine (number might change depending on opinions) closes chapters respond to this threat and managed to push them back though the results were the loss of multiple marines and the destruction of numerous worlds, whose energy was stolen by the invaders. In response the chapters that first fought this species form a brotherhood with the approval of the High Lords of Terra to combat and find a way to destroy these invaders or at least enter the Halo Zone in order to take the fight to the invaders. Including the original chapters, other chapters (they can be fanon chapters) are sometimes given the honor as honorary members of the brotherhood to join in the effort. what do you think? Primarch11 04:47, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

would it be to much trouble to ask for your help in creating a race from the Halo Zone? I have some certain ideas down for a race but I don't want to make them non-friendly. reply and I can give you a list of what i was thinking of. Primarch11 22:17, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

thank you anyway here are some ideas i had in mind for the race.

they have humanoid/demonic appearances and genders though their skin color ranges from tan, to light and dark blue, white and purple

They also have beasts that look demonic and have the same

Some of the smaller humanoid ones are psykers and look similar to the Eldar except they float a little

i kind of imagine them like a hybrid of Zerg and Protoss from Starcraft if you get what I mean

their techonolgy looks like organic machinery and same with their weapons, kind of like how i described the Traveler's technology

Its not the most detailed but that's basically my idea in mind. I might be able to find pictures that resemble them a little if you think that could work. thanks again. Primarch11 23:47, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

that makes sense they could look like monstrious humanoids with a demonic aurora around them. that could work! what do you think about their technology and weapons? Primarch11 01:50, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

anyway i need to head for bed now. so let me know if you think of anything and just send it as a message. thanks for helping i'll probably show you the names for the new nine chapters tomorrow. Primarch11 02:55, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

that could work so do you think you could do it? Primarch11 14:39, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lost Primarch articles?
I know it might sound crazy, but I have an idea about how we we could make this work. The rules for making such an article would be: If you claim this would be NCF, then let me point out that the whole point of the two Primarchs being missing is so that GW could give fans a few gaps in the Imperium's history to fill for themselves.
 * The title must be "Primarch II (creator's user name here)" or "Primarch XI (creator's user name here)" to indicate whose version of the respective Primarch it is. So if I wanted to make one, it would be called "Primarch II (Slug Gunner Fan)".
 * They must have a standard Primarch backstory about landing on a world, being raised by natives (or local wildlife, a la Leman Russ), then being rediscovered by Empy and taking command of their respective Space Marine Legion.
 * The rest is up to the author provided they aren't just a Mary Sue who owns everyone, or a total failure; The sort of garbage that is only permitted in humour articles.
 * They have to die or be lost forever at least 2 centuries before the Horus Heresy; anything less than 200 years must be explained thoroughly, and less than 170 years before is to be treated as NCF. What happens to their legion after they're gone? Are they lost with their father, wiped out, or simply split up and intergrated into another legion (or several legions)? OR... is the Primarch "removed" for heresy?
 * I might have missed some stuff, point it out in a reply if i had.

PS you got my nickname wrong. it's Gunner, not Slug. You're forgiven though, since this is the first time you've used it.

help me create a race from the Halo Zone based on those ideas? Primarch11 19:07, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

this is what I have so far:

Halo Zone Race (Zeraks: Zero)

 Organic Technology

 Demonic Aurora

 Psykers

 Less Human and more demonic nightmarish Appearance

 Purple, Pale, Black and Tan skin

 Sub-species Hierarchy

 Individual mind for the upper class sub-species

 <p class="MsoNormal">Psychic link between all sub-species

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Void Gate (Similar to the Webway)

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Evolution Requirements: Whatever kind of path a Zerak takes during battle or in life reflects on their evolution. Another way for a Zerak to evolve is by consuming the souls of their victims or enemy, sometimes even their own kin, in order to grow in status and power.

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Different Zerak Classes (From top to bottom):

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Dark Overmasters: The Eleven Supreme Rulers of the Zeraks believed to be the creators of the Zeraks.

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Overlords: Powerful Zeraks that have consumed thousands of souls and conquered many worlds in the name of the Dark Overmasters, who have given them great power and authority over the race’s armies.

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Gladiators: The elite fighting force of the Zeraks. This sub-specie have consumed souls that have given them great strength and fighting skills, combined with decades of experience, they are also the race’s veterans, given some of the best weapons and armor to use in battle They are about the same size of a space marine and a few are the size of a terminator marine.

<p class="MsoNormal"> <p class="MsoNormal">Drifters: Similar to the Gladiators, the Drifters are some of the Zerak’s best warriors in the art of stealth and assassination. They have slim reptilian bodies and have their weapons fused with their own limbs.

let me know what you think. Primarch11 16:38, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

basically yeah but that's only half of them. I'm still working on a name for the psykers, the main force, the honor guard version for the Overlords and i don't know what else there could be. If you can think of any let me know. Primarch11 21:44, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, can you please delete all my articles and pages for me. Orkmarine doesnt seem to be working on the timeline anymore, so the two articles that i made for that are unable to be continued, and I have lost where i was going with the Dance of Shadows. Thanks Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 06:37, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

hi! could you tell me ideas for my story.

I wondered if anyboyd would spot the Borgia connection - not that its particularly subtle. I majored in history so my way of creating the political situation of the Aliris sector was to mine it. Write what you know.

Appian's ambitions are not so very different from Alexander VI's but he has to be a LOT more subtle about achieving them. Luckily he has a lot more time to work with than Alexander did. Basically what he wants is to install his children in positions of power that will secure the future of House Bossi as a major force in the Sector. On the Ecclesiarchal side he wants to resolve the longstanding schism between the western dioceses and eastern in Romuleia's favor. The Sector Lords btw favor the claims of the Arch-Cardinal of Bezant.

His strategy has been to place each of his children in a different power block with the intend of them mutually supporting each other. It isn't working so well. Petrus' first loyalty is to Emperor and the Sector Lord which causes conflicts. Gironda is more interested in furthering the interests of the Seranissa League than those of House Bossi. Bellicent was married into a rival power block on Romuleia but seems more interested in playing soldier than politics. Sebastian is NEVER going to make Arch-Cardinal though he might someday become another of the Empire's militant saints. Macharius is no soldier but he achieves his ends by means that would have impressed Machiavelli. Nobody knows what the heck Helenia wants out of life yet. So far she has done what Daddy wants but that can change at any time.

Whoops, sorry, forgot the signatureKadjah Thoris (talk) 22:55, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I will remember Appian must be careful - and remind him of it. I imagine the ban against the Church employing men in arms is why Romuleia has a Vicarius, a civil authority under the Cardinal, who can employ them.

DRAT! Did it again Kadjah Thoris (talk) 23:21, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dark Guard chapter deletion
Hi, my name's Caelien and I created a post for the Dark Guard space marine chapter. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to expand on the article and i feel that the current entry isn't enough to warrant a place on this wikia. I feel therefore it's probably best to delete the entry.

I've had a look to see if it's possible for me as the author to delete the entry but i can't seem to see how to do this, so I figured I'd ask an admin to do it on my behalf. I give full permission for the article to be deleted

Thanks in advance

Caelien (talk) 18:41, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I've been dreading hearing from you - please don't compare me to Matt Ward again!

Re: Ordo Hereticus - oops! so if the Watch predates them too.... What if I made them an auxillary of the Grey Knights? The GK are the heavy hitters for major Chaos incursions and the Watch handles the small ones involving cultists and sorcerors rather than full fledged daemons?

Suggestions welcome. I am willing to make changes but I don't want to lose my Watch. Surely there's room in the Galaxy for them somewhere?

Drat! Drat! Drat!Kadjah Thoris (talk) 15:16, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Basically what I want to keep is the Watch's decentralized, perigrinating organization. Their mission and associates are totally negotiable. If necessary I am open to making them a standard ChapterKadjah Thoris (talk) 15:35, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

So....can I assume the Knights of the Watch is fixed as I haven't heard from you or my other critics all day?Kadjah Thoris (talk) 22:58, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Can we agree to disagree on the earlier points? Deathwatch Kill marines are said to operate among civilians that's where I got the idea from. If you think Luna is a bad idea I will happily move Watch Station One.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 17:51, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Already done. They are now on a moon of the Centaurus system, solar sector.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 18:52, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

hi anyway Dirge gave me this idea for the Brotherhood. I was thinking that maybe it could be used sort of as a backgrround or something for my idea:

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Right so you want my outline for the Gramaticans?

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">What do you think? Also im going to send this to Tom too. Primarch11 20:00, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dark Age colonies, part of Humanity's empire. But the war with the Men of Iron an the resulting Age of Strife cut them off from Mankind.
 * And considering all the HORRIBLE supernatural and primordial horror that lurks there life generally sucks. But they pull together and become the Gramatican Federation. Dark Age tech, includes a city made of hard light and Flux Shields.
 * <span style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:21px;">Eventually they are attacked and war with a race of higher dimensional beings native to the Halo Region called the Star Reapers. Ethereal beings, quasi-intelligent or perhaps beyond human comprehension. Being of a higher dimension, we of the 4th Dimension cannot interact or harm them in anyway while they can  tear us a new one at their leisure.
 * <span style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:21px;">Sucessfully imprison a few in Teserach Crucibles and study them, resulting in Phase Technology. Using this they create battalions of elite soldiers who can "phase" out of our reality and into the Reaper's dimensional level, meaning they could fight them on even terms. These elites are calle Perpetuals. What this looks like is the person being transparent and visually refracting light. Now they could fight the Reapers on their own ground and kill them. They also found that Phase Tech is wonderous against normal enemies, being completely invulnerable to anything until they attack to which they are momentarily vulnerable. The Federation is back on the offensive and all is well for now.
 * <span style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:21px;">In this time of almost-peace the Perpetuals are not needed so much anymore and are reduced to six battalions rather than twenty. The Brotherhood arrive and makes contact. The Grams are totally xenophobic and untrusting. First contact is a failure and they reject joining the Imperium.
 * <span style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:21px;">Althoughthey are super advanced, but not invulnerable and are devastated by Exterminatus-class weapons. No amount of Flux Shields helps against that. The Perpetuals do great at first but once the Astartes figured out their weakness they were whittled down. The final blow is the fall of Los Numinus, the captial city composed entirely of hardlight. So basically they are defeated, but as a unforseen consequence of the Imperial's meddleing  many Star Reapers are freed from imprisonment who go on a rampage.

Supa, I have a problem with my new Iron Krakens article. I can't post the image I want in the infobox, the thing claims the picture doen't exist, but it does. This is it. I'm sure I put the file name in correctly, can you help?

Never mind, fixed Slug gunner fan (talk) 20:22, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

rise of the plague. if I had your e-mail I could send you it.

well i was just mentioning, it doesn't have to be used. also im almost done with the rest of the Zeraks society and history but just need to make a few adjustments. Primarch11 01:31, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa. I was wondering why you think the Star Reapers an Gramaticans are over the top? Yes the Gramaticans are wonderously advanced but they aren't invulnerable in conventional warfare and are crushed by the Imperium. As a matter of fact their capital city, a place made of hard light falls in one fell swoop.

As for the Reapers, i can definately see what your thinking. But its not like their C'tan and in the Halo Region thei are supernatural (though admittly unamed threat) Think of the Pale Wastings, it hints to deathless and supernatural creatures that the Novamarines fought.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 05:42, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

The Dark Age was Mankind's zenith, much of what was from there is so advanced it looks magical. Also the Reapers aren't armies, their numbers are small in comparison to the Federation and they dont really coodinate, them being not a social race. Its not like there are millions of them, hardly even thousands. And they could be imprisoned as demonstrated by the Teserach Crucibles.

Its kind of like those fantastic event that happen in 40k that get mentioned but no explanation.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 13:45, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Ork Space Marine Humour article?
Can I make one Supa? Is it allowed? Is it a good idea? Just asking, that's all. Adeptus Orkstartes? Emprah's Giants chapta? strength of 'ow many battul-bruvvers?

In reguards to your recent post on my page, I'd like to thank you for saying so. However, if you don't mind, could you specify what you mean by "nonsense"? It'd help me change it for the better. Thank you again.GrippenJ39 (talk) 02:02, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, this is Valarian. I would like to get some clarification on the start of a user faction.

You see, I have an idea for a faction that is called Rageus's Purifiers. They have nothing to do with Grey Knights or Angry Marines. But anyways, the group is supposed to help point out extreme Mary-Suedom.

If you can get any clarrification on this, please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks!

&#91;&#91;User:Valarian of Naples&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;w:c:Valarian of Naples:User talk:Let no foe stand before us!&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) (talk) 02:05, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Thank you again. Sorry, I'm still sort of new to this, so i wasn't sure on what to expect. I read over the rules Cal XD posted, and I think it fits the criteria. I hope the article is better now. GrippenJ39 (talk) 05:47, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

here is the completed list of the Zerak sub-species.

<p class="MsoNormal">Dark Overmasters: The Eleven Supreme Rulers of the Zeraks believed to be the creators of the Zeraks.

<p class="MsoNormal">Overlords: Powerful Zeraks that have consumed thousands of souls and conquered many worlds in the name of the Dark Overmasters, who have given them great power and authority over the race’s armies.

<p class="MsoNormal">Gladiators: The elite fighting force of the Zeraks. This sub-specie have consumed souls that have given them great strength and fighting skills, combined with decades of experience, they are also the race’s veterans, given some of the best weapons and armor to use in battle They are about the same size of a space marine and a few are the size of a terminator marine. The Gladiators are usually used as guards for the Overlords or as high-ranking officers.

<p class="MsoNormal">Drifters: This sub-specie is different from the other sub-species, instead of serving the Overlord of their army that they use to serve in they instead only serve the Overmasters. They are given free reign of where they go and what they do as long as it benefits the Zeraks. Their appearance differs similar to the Gladiators.

<p class="MsoNormal">Crafters: They are the psykers of the Zerak race. The Crafter’s appearances are slimmer then the other sub-species, as well as more frail because the psychic power robs them of the requirements for close combat. Their skin is usual purple or pale and can float too. Sometimes they act as the communication officers between the Zerak’s forces

<p class="MsoNormal">Striders: Similar to the Gladiators, the Striders are some of the Zerak’s best warriors in the art of stealth and assassination. They have slim reptilian bodies and have their weapons fused with their own limbs.

<p class="MsoNormal">Reapers: The Reapers are the light infantry like the Maulers but have more of an authority amongst the Zeraks, like a field officers underneath the Gladiators and Overlords. Their bodies are about the same as an Eldar though their size is the same as a Space Marine. Sometimes they act as special operatives for important missions.

<p class="MsoNormal">Maulers:   Maulers are the heavy infantry of the Zerak race, around the same size as a Terminator Marine and an Ork Nob. They have pale and white skin and have a primal like appearance. They can act both as range-fighters and melee fighters. There are those amongst them that completely lose themselves due to the Mauler’s low emotional control. These Maulers are called Savages.

<p class="MsoNormal">Eliminators: They are the largest of the Zerak sub-species, as well as less intelligent. Their size is equal to a Chaos Obliterator, Dreadnought or Tau Battlesuit. They are slow and do not speak, so it is hard to tell how high their intelligence is but they are fierce fighters. Their bodies are covered in heavy platting armor along with weapons strapped to their arms, which they have four of.

<p class="MsoNormal">Stalkers: They are the only flyers among the Zerak sub-species. They have a mix of insect and bat like form. They work well in groups and at nights, and many times people say that its like the skies themselves are screaming due to their voices that cause panic amongst the enemy.

<p class="MsoNormal">Trackers: Trackers are the second lowest sub-species in the Zerak’s hierarchy, though they serve a better role then the Lurkers. Instead they act as scouts and snipers, due to their slim short bodies along with high tracking senses.

<p class="MsoNormal">Lurkers: The cannon fodder of the Zeraks, they are the most numerous out of all the sub-species. They are about half the size of a regular human, grey skin and hunchbacks. They serve as the main infantry and as shock troopers too, hiding within the battlefield with bombs in order to surprise the enemy.

<p class="MsoNormal">What do you think and if you could do you know any sites where i could find potential pictures of them. Primarch11 23:16, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Supa. What was the end result of yesterday? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 16:33, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, just letting you know that you no longer have to delete my article's as Cal has done it for me. I am planning on starting afresh with a space marine chapter. Also on a side note can you please check http://tesfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Rei_Xu_War this out and give me your thoughts. Thank you Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 11:19, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Supah Its me OrkMarine, Could you please delete all these pages-

Dis one

And dis one

And this one

And finally this one

Orkmarine 12:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, its me OrkMarine again. I was just wondering if it would be possible for you to reveiw mine and ghosts new race, the Xellok. Theyre still in the early stages on construction but some feedback on them so far would be great.

Regards Ork Orkmarine 10:54, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I saw him doing it, so I decided to remove those article's I no longer really wanted up on the site. It's painful for me to look at them because of the poor qualtiy. Imposter101 (talk) 19:02, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ah thanks Supah, I see what you mean with the Strains and Mutations, I was thinking of rewriting the bit on Strains. As for the Eldar being pysically tougher this must be a mistake I wrote in as the Eldar are a more frail speceis, I shall change that aswell. The Ork infected was a bit of experimentation with me and Ghost, Im gonna reveiw that part and talk to ghost about it. Anyway, thanks for reveiwing it.

Regards Ork Orkmarine 11:07, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa, i have a question. You know Daemon Weapons right? What would happen if you took a Daemon of Khorne and one of Slaanesh, both of equal power, and stuck them in a blade.

What do you think?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 22:33, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Rageus's Purifiers are going to count as SSpace Marines. Their deviations from the Belligerent Templars structure is as follows:

1. Not trying to be an Angry Marine ripoff

2. No Sickles

3. Not trying to be Homestuck Fanboys

4. Utter loyalty to Chaplain Rageus Quitus

&#91;&#91;User:Valarian of Naples&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;w:c:Valarian of Naples:User talk:Let no foe stand before us!&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) (talk) 23:07, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

hi im almost done looking for pictures. not sure yet if i need them and i will soon be starting on the first part of the Zerak's page. just giving you a heads up. i don't know yet when ill (and Tom if i can get him) will start working on the new Brotherhood chapters so I hope i don't there isn't a deadline since i don't do well under to much pressure. Primarch11 02:29, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Rageus Quitus would like you, as an editor, to join Rageus's Purifiers. Both the Emprah and the Chaos Gods agree that Matt Ward and the taint of utter Mary Sue must be uprooted.

&#91;&#91;User:Valarian of Naples&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;w:c:Valarian of Naples:User talk:Let no foe stand before us!&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) (talk) 00:34, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah! There's been a major ass troll on Dirge's blog, wondering if you could ban the guy. Told me to suck a dick, disregard for chat mods and others, etc. Either he's a troll, or simply an eleven year old with an attitude. Ave Dominus Nox! (talk) 00:40, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Then shall we agree on allying, since both the Imperium and Chaos have been harmed by Matt Ward's Lore Rape?

&#91;&#91;User:Valarian of Naples&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;w:c:Valarian of Naples:User talk:Let no foe stand before us!&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) (talk) 00:54, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supah, I just added some more history to the Thousand editors page in regards to the chaos that was caused here: http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ghost47/Chat_Problems Hope you dont mind Master Shadow Warrior (talk) 07:19, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. By the way, how do I add the A.K.A thing on my avatar name?

&#91;&#91;User:Valarian of Naples&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;w:c:Valarian of Naples:User talk:Let no foe stand before us!&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) (talk) 22:58, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

TacticAngel
https://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:TacticAngel#Talk_Template <-- You got a reply, just in case you didn't notice. :) - 05:07, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa. Yeah, cant stop the creative gears from turning, keep thinking about stuff for the Cerean. For the Lazarites i was thinking their logo is that of a triple-helix -blue, purple and green. Thought about the LL, are they Type 1 or Type 2 Zombies? Slow ones or sprinters.

I was also thinking that to make the Cerean Commandos dangerous, what if they used some alien weapons in their inventory from their trading and maybe even xenos trainers, like Eldar Mercs or something.

I also rember you like the name Behemoth-class. What if the rank-and file of the Children were called Nemean-class?

Lemme know if me pestering is getting annoying.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 03:10, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hi there ive recently joined and made a page for my chapter the Storm Dragons, just wandered if you would mibe casting your eye of the page (its has loads more to have added just wanted an opinion) many thanks Superthrowdown1 (talk) 14:15, June 4, 2013 (UTC)Superthrowdown1

I would love to!

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 23:00, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Is the Brotherhood having a Chapter on their side too much? After all the other stuff they have? -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 23:58, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Made edits to the Cerean Crucible, multiple articles. Most grammar or wording but i've added some stuff. You can see it all on the Wiki Activity. What do you think?

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 04:18, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks i shall make the edits later tonight, very much appreciated Superthrowdown1 (talk) 15:35, June 5, 2013 (UTC)Superthrowdown1

As you seem to be the go-to guy for constructive-criticism, I'd ask you to take a look at my Amanu Ensis page and give me feedback on what I have so far whenever you get the chance. Thanks for your time. Registered Scribe (talk) 21:40, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey supah i have an idea for an artical but it may be sensitive to the cannon its a good idea i assure you but im not shure if the wiki would allow it, it deals with Pre Hours Heresy level stuff and will be a warband of sort, whenever possible id like to discuss this with you in the chats before i do anything rash or stupid.T42 (talk) 06:31, June 9, 2013 (UTC) thanks.

Hello, i was wondering how you get the shoulder and fullbody templates for a chapter's colour scheme. thx for reading.Sahron (talk) 16:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Help me, Supahbadmarine! Twice now I have accidently created a category by mispelling and once put an article in a wrong category - how can I fix this. In words of one syllable suitable to a marginally computer literate person.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 22:53, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supha, total has banned me from chat because I said I rustled his jimmies, can you unban me? Imposter101 (talk) 23:11, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supha.

Could you please unblock me from chat? I think Total was a bit harsh.

Imposter101 (talk) 23:19, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Imposter101 (talk) 23:27, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

I just tried to refresh Chat, and i comes up with an error message, same thing when I press the Chat button. Just to warn you. Trulyrandom (talk) 23:49, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey supah bout the Mutacrat, i was thinking that my Undying Chaos space marine warband could have a largeish number of Dark Mutacrat as engineers, its sensable as the Draugar war machines (Cyber-Marines) are probably to advanced to make without the aid of Xenos who are skilled in robotics.

Hey Supa, had a big string of vandalism, Plague mostly handled it but those articles needed to be Protected.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 07:58, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Supa. For the Crucible i`ve been working. Can i replace some chapters that have been deleted with new ones? Some are just names but i do plan to make them.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 08:31, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Im TenHalo, and i just finished writing the about my own Space Marine Chapter the Castellan Guard. Except there is only one problem: some guy just came and edited the article without my permission, and now every single word from it has been erased. This guy is simply called A WikiaContributor or something of the like, and he has already done the same thing as he did to my article to several others as well.

Is it at all possible to restore the Castellan Guard without me re-writing the whole Chapter? If so, i would like to know. --TenHalo (talk) 08:00, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Serious troll attack supah. I don't know how much they've done, or whether my attempts at reverting the changes will do any good at stopping them. This needs to be dealt with... <font color="#F06">-- NecrusIV -(Talk |My Wiki) 08:02, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

I`ve been workingon the CC, some battles in the works nothign yet. So can i replace some chapters that have been deleted with new ones? Some are just names but i do plan to make them.

Regards -DirgeOfCerberus111 (talk) 08:31, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

There's this one thing that has been bothering me lately, and thats how to edit the size of the images. I know i can add them (And get them to actually look normal. As in without showing the whole Added by TenHalo at the bottom and framing them in some annoying way) just by typing File:WhatEverImage.jpg, but aftter that how am i supposed to edit the size? TenHalo (talk) 12:25, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Questions
hello supah, i had some questions concerning the steel wardens. It came to my attention that others in the wiki though the geneseed portion of my article "steel wardens" was NCF.I erased the offending that portion of the article. A long conversation with Khaleal, Vernichtung, and Totalimmortal ended in only in an interrogation yielded nothing except hurt feelings (they accused me of being slug-gunner among other things) so now i humbly come to you for advice. thx for listening, i look forward to yor reply. Sahron (talk) 23:53, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) due to the fact that their planet fell to chaos so quickly, the Steel Wrdens were not able to carry away any geneseed except the geneseed they carry with themselves (which at a number of 250 surviving marines isnt enough to survive), what are the ways in which they could obtain more geneseed?
 * 2) What is the maximum allowable size of a space marine fleet?
 * 3) where does a Chapter Master come from? could he be from another chapter altogether?
 * 4) is it possible to blend together geneseed to create a hybrid?

omg i mde a horrible mistake...it was not total immortal who was giving me grief, rather it was imposter101. so sry!Sahron (talk) 23:59, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sahron seems to be trying to make me out as some form of horrible person. I'll be happy to explain what happened now.

1: Criticised his Steel Wardens for NCF aspects (stealing gene-seed from both loyalists and traitors, not instantly falling apart and splintering due to mass influx of mutations, or being excommunicate from the Imperium). I also did so with a related article. He fixed the problems with the gene-seed.

2: On chat, I explained to him that Space marines would not recruit from Guard. He refused to accept this and a debate ensued for around 30 mins, with Sahron refusing to listin to me or Ghost and using very flimsy arguments. He would then go back to trying to instal the gene-seed idea, which was further annoying as he again refused to listen.

3: Reperdly said that you had seen the gene-seed edits and where fine with them. Is this true? He also said I needed to contact you whenever giving criticisms or noting NCF.

Imposter101 (talk) 00:58, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Oh Sahron... Trying to dictate rules that don't exist and just dumping all of your angst on to Supah's page. Users needing the permission of an Admin to constructively criticise (seeing as Imposter had a solid argument) or call something out as being NCF? Lol, nope. If that had been the case, so much would fall under the radar, remaining forevermore as a detrimental stain on the wiki. Trying the "poor little lamb" defence doesn't help Sahron's cause either. "All teh udder oozers wear meen two meh, cuz dey dont praise all of mah supahawesome ideas two mah ideas and accept mah authoritah as canon." But yeah, Supah, you should probably lay down the law. Seeing as Sahron doesn't seem to regard the other admins as being capable of rational thought or holding knowledge of the canon beyond his own understanding.  Khalael My Talk 15:17, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well, you know what they say, mate. The more things change, the more they stay the same. :P  Khalael My Talk 16:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I never intended to put words in your mouth when I said you had checked it. I simply assumed that since my earlier mistakes had gotten corrcted so quickly that others would be too. My bad. I fixed all the things (and there are more needed too). As for listening, I did everything they asked, and then tried to brainstorm possible CF stuff. Because i apparently sounded like slug-gunner ( I don't know HOW, I wasn't insulting anyone)  Khaleal decided I was his (slug gunner's) alt, something that hurt me deeply since I always try to be nice and fair to people (read my profile), even if my grasp on the canon is slightly shakey. Imposter, whos intentions were hopefully good, made me feel like I was being interrogated because of my lack of knowledge, so to get him off my back I told him I'd let the admins know. Instead of trying to help me they left me to grope around for new ideas, which they promptly shot down, and did't offer anything helpful. At the end I was deeply disturbed and agitated. I wanted an Admin to HELP me with this stuff, and I chose you because I had business before with you, and also because you are probably THE guy to go to for canon. I didn't want Khaleal's help for the reason stated above and I don't feel comfortable trying to contact new people (to ask ONI to help me with picts took me an hour to get my courage up) probably due to rejection issues. I'm not a dick, and I do try to listen to people, but I can't stand being shoved around. Thx for listening. Sahron (talk) 17:22, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Even more questions!
Hello supah, i'm here to ask you more questions, plz dont hurt me. my brain hurts now from thinking too much...thx for listening to me. Sahron (talk) 22:54, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Do Chapter serfs form/ or become a part of distinct divisions (such as Refueling division, maintenance division, testing division, etc)
 * 2) do chapter serfs pilot and/or drive the chapter's tanks/ thunderhawks/ misc. kill-mobile? And if so, are there distinct divisions? (such as the 1st armoured division, 2nd armoured division, etc.)
 * 3) Chapter serfs aren't servitors, right?
 * 4) when a chapter is founded, warriors are selected from the planet meant to be their homeworld right?
 * 5) Are Captains and Sergeants trained with the battle-brothers, or are they sent to a sort of officer's school to learn tactics and how to lead?
 * 6) i heard from the wiki that: "The already extant Space Marine Chapters may also have a role in this process, though to what degree can vary greatly from Founding to Founding. Many of the First Founding Chapters maintain close links with Chapters created using their own gene-seed stocks, and the Chapter Masters might have a hand in planning future Foundings using that genetic material. It is said that the Disciples of Caliban, a Dark Angels Successor Chapter, was created following the direct appeal of the Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels, an extremely rare request." from the Founding page of the 40k canon wiki. What does this entail? Can officers from other chapters be seconded to the new chapter to oversee training or perhaps place officers in the new chapter so that the new astartes can be lead by experienced marines?
 * 7) In my original Steel wardens story, the planet succumbed to chaos just before the arrival of the steel wardens to occupy their new chapter world (with horrible results). Given that it takes years for a recruit to be properly trained, this is still a viable option (im guessing it will be about 10-20 years in between the the imperium coming to check the world for taint, gather recuits, and etc and the steel wardens coming to occupy their new homeworld, is this enough time?
 * 8) Are they ever going to make a 40k bible that deals with this piddly stuff?

The Explorator team further discovered that there was a hidden laboratorium that contained three large incubation tanks with an enormous human male floating in amniotic fluid within each one. The physiology of these giants were similar to Space Marines, but the subjects were far larger than normal Astartes. Two of these tubes were obviously damaged, the fluid within cloudy and stagnant, but the third still appeared to be functioning. Autopsies were performed on two of the bodies while the revivification process was begun on the third. An agent of the Inquisition that had been inserted within the Adeptus Mechanicus some years ago reported the disturbing news of the discovery from the archaeological site on Inculaba. A Grey Knights team was dispatched to prevent the sacred technology of this site from falling into the wrong hands. But by the time they arrived, they found no trace of the Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator team and no sign of their vessel. The site was as bereft of life as a world stripped by the Tyranids. There were no bodies discovered and no evidence of any attackers. Astropaths detected a residual Warp trail, but were unable to discern its direction. The site was then bombed from orbit with Cyclonic Torpedoes and all record of it was expunged from the Imperial bureaucracy. The Inquisition fears that what was on this world is now gone, taken by the agents of Chaos, and that they will eventually rue the day that this cursed place was discovered anew.

From the cursed 21st foundingpage.

could more black projects such as the 21st founding be done? could an experiment such as the one above be going on, and perhaps have escapees?(not from this one, since there is only one weird-thing )  is it possible that through the horrid and labryinthine government of the imperium that  perhaps some funky geneseed could get through unnoticed, or that one of the escapees could perhaps take the place of an astartes? thx for listening. Sahron (talk) 23:11, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

oh and PS did you see my earlier message? Its the one with 8 questions, and should be above this one. thx for tolerating me. Sahron (talk) 23:11, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Select 13th Founding Chapter:Edit 13th founding page

Exorcists also seem tp be another black project, and is it ok to have your geneseed remain classified, and to be a succesor of someone other than a legion? thx Sahron (talk) 23:26, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

oh and did you see my 2 previous walls of text? i'm so sry to be vothering you, but i want to run this by an admin first. thx so much for putting up with me! i appreciate!Sahron (talk) 23:26, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

thx for your reply, and i thank you for your benevolence. however im confused, you use a lot of improbables and possiblities, but i want to know for certain what is or isnt canon friendly, or would generate a butt-load of flak. thx for listening. Sahron (talk) 01:03, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

thx for responding so quickly!

i was thinking about my chapter being another skunk-works ish project, with "enhanced" geneseed created from multiple loyalist chapters (theyre classified), in the hope that they would balance each other out. unfortunatley this created some downright funky geneseed, most of which was destroyed, though apparently there was a breakthrough, apparenlty "geneseed worthy of the god-emperor". during shipment, the ship carrying the geneseed had its geller fields collapse, killing the crew and exposing the geneseed to who-knows-what. the inquisition studied the geneseed and declared it within the proper bounds of purity, (classified documents however show that they ranked the geneseed as bad as the space wolves and blood angels geneseed). implantation went normally, and the initiates suffered nothing. the inquisition earmarked the nascent chapter for close observation, and if neccesary extermination. thus the steel wardens were always accompanied by inquisitors, though they exhibited no outward signs of mutation.

when it came time for the chapter to ship out, they did so with the "escort" of several inquisitorial ships and a small detachment of exorcists, seconded from their chapter to "train" the captains and sergeants in the art of warfare. however they were also told to execute their charges should a taint appear. none did.

thus the flight ot the steel warden's new home was unneventful, and the whole entourage landed safely on the fields of Thanatia, to the cheers of the population.

however all was not as seemed.

the poplutation of thanatia had been secretly worshipping the chaos god slaanesh for several years, who had promised to deliver them from the toils and hardships they had suffered when the imperium had come to their world: from heavy  taxes, extreme rationing, and the endless toiling to build the steel warden's new fortress monastery. they however hid their true loyalties from view as their hated overlords walked the fields to make their home in the fortress monastery that the population had slaved and toiled and suffered extreme deprivations to create.

they walked into a trap

how do you like so far? is it CF?Sahron (talk) 01:41, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Created a new page but it came with talk comments from a previously created (and thereafter deleted) page. How do you get rid of the previous talk posts since they no longer apply?

ok thx...but what do you mean by rubber stamp? and i added the exorcists because I was thinking that the steel wardens would be trained by them (i like the fact that the exorcists use unconventional and pramatic tactics). the geneseed mixing wont be helpful, its a sort of delayed mutation, i just havent gotten to that part yet. waiting for reply, oh and could you suggest some changes too? id love to hear them. thx for readin Sahron (talk) 18:09, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

thx ill keep that in mind. i just want a unique chapter. as for where im going, rly i guess i kinda want space wolves.....without their annoying nordic/fantasy bits, oh and prob a bit unconventional. to this end ive been trying to create a mixed  geneseed chapter, ive been entertaining thoughts of using loyalist and traitor geneseed mixtures, but it looks like that will prob be shot down faster than a zeppelin hit by incendiaries........ do you know anyone who would do that canon wise? (chaos is fine, but then how do get them to become loyalists. im at my wit's end here...can you help me? thx for listeningSahron (talk) 22:20, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey supah...about our hat earlier....so youre saying for me to think more about how my marine's story goes, rather than trying to make them stick out? Sahron (talk) 00:02, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

ok thank you.Sahron (talk) 15:11, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Couple of questions
Hi there. I'm new to the Wiki (really new, started today) and I'm planning on, in the long run, making a fairly substantial contribution. With that in mind, I have a couple of questions which I couldn't seem to find an answer to.

First of all, I noticed that one of the updates mentioned that you're not allowed to post custom rules. I'm a little confused because I couldn't actually find that under the main listing of rules. I might be being dense, I just couldn't seem to find it. Assuming it is the case and you aren't allowed to post them, is it okay to link from the wiki article to a blog that has them? In this instance, by custom rules, I mean a full fan-codex for a Space Marine chapter that is in the process of being written.

My second question is are non-loyalist chapters allowed? I suppose that's it really.

Hope you get back to me, and I look forward to contributing.

Ashua 666 (talk) 18:14, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Ashua_666

Thanks for the quick reply. To answer your question and elaborate, there's a series of articles i'm interested in writing based on several campaigns that ahave taken place in my gaming group. When I said I wanted to add a lot of material, it's mostly because there's a lot to add.

The campaign in particular is set on the extreme north-eastern border of the Imperium of Man in an area badly affected by the faltering light of the Astronomicon. It all involves events which transpired during the buildup to the Age of the Apostate and the Reign of Blood. In a nutshell, as part of a political move on Vandyre's part, a Crusade was declared in that region of space as a front to eliminate various political opponents. In the aftermath of this, the survivors were severed from the Imperium of Man.

The Space Marine chapters assigned to the Crusade took heavy losses and ultimately to prevent complete destruction, they took control of the available armed forces and managed with a great deal of struggle to carve out an isolated but reasonably stable realm.

Fastforward quite a bit and everything goes to hell when the region is rediscovered and due to various machinations, several individuals are assassinated and a costly but contained war front opens up. The reason why I was asking about renegades in particular is that the chapters involved, whilst not having fallen to Chaos have no allegience to the Imperium of Man and ultimately have come to see it as a corruption of what the Emperor would have wanted and hoped for.

As for why I was wondering about fan-made rules, I've pretty much written an entire Codex, complete with history, lore, unit entries and the lot. At the minute, I'm actually working on some photography for the inside of the book.

Just so you know a little background about me, I'm a sculptor and graphic designer who's been out of work for a long time but a recent change in circumstances has helped me get things back on track and I've been doing a lot of this writing as an exercise in refreshing old skills. Hope that answers your questions.

In the meantime, I'm going to write up a more complete outline of things to submit to the admins as there's a few elements in all of this I think will need admin approval. For instance, I know there's a hard-limit on the size of Space Marine Chapters though I'm not 100% sure whether that would apply in this instance as the Space Marines in question, whilst as a collective whole exceed that number, the individual Chapters as a rule do not, though I should say from a fluff perspective they don't do this for Codex reasons; rather they operate as numerous smaller units that are each between 2 to 3 companies in size and due to the difficulty in travelling in the region, they are forced to be extremely self-sufficient. As a result, their numbers are usually somewhat lower than a normal Chapter - 3 subunits, each of about 200 marines - but at times the structure means that each Chapter can grow larger when necessary, and teir numbers have at times fluctuated to numbers closer to the 2000 mark.

88.104.134.11 01:32, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hi supah, i have a question for you. Originally i was going to have the Steel Wardens be based off the space wolves geneseed. Sadly however GW decided that it would be epic to crush everyone's dreams of second founding space wolves chapters, so there want that idea.... so i was cruising the net looking for suitable geneseed, and I guess i hate everyone. I hate the Matt ward i mean the ultrasmurf i mean the ultramarines, and i really dont like the feel of the other legions (and their progeny), so here i am. so i was wondering if: thx for listening. and thanks for your advice...im rly more at peace now that im not trying to make them all different. though working on a story has stonewalled until i get the geneseed down. thx Sahron (talk) 19:25, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) successor chapters have to be the exact same thing as the legion?( i prefer my marines my way)
 * 2) Is there still a way to get space wolf geneseed? (i dont care how convoluted, crazy, weird way it is.)

thx for responding. My heart weeps at the fact i cant use space wolf geneseed! oh well i shall move on. thx for listeningSahron (talk) 17:05, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Xenomarines

Sparkly Skinned Blood Angel Successors
Of course it was a Twilight reference ;-) Not that I'd be caught undead actually READING one of those horrors but I thought it would be a good reason for the Sons to hide their faces.Kadjah Thoris (talk) 22:53, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Second Founding Chapters?
There's this dude who's made a Chapter he says is Second Founding. But it is my understanding that there's a rule against making any Chapters that are Second or Third Founding, is that correct? Jochannon (talk) 00:14, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Okay then, could you come and take a look at the Red Scythes?Jochannon (talk) 11:21, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Canon Chapters
Hey, dude. The chapters the Blades Eternal and the FIstst of Olchis are canon chapters, but in canon they went on the Abyssal Crusade and vanished without a trace. If I wrote something about them coming back, would that co9unt as fanon?Jochannon (talk) 16:40, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I miswrote; canonically, their fate is unknown http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Abyssal_Crusade#Forces

No, it's just nothing in canon says what their fate was: no canon source says what happened to them.Jochannon (talk) 18:32, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Jochannon (talk) 18:38, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Pretty racist taste comment made by Abyssal Horror
Hey Supha, during chat, Horror made this comment;

"i mean, cant he count himself as bosniak, serb or croat... so or so no one would vote for him, since most gypsies dont even have a home, even if they did, they would propably sell it for 1 mark (0.5 euros)"

This is fairly racist and quite offensive. Imposter101 (talk) 17:20, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Abyssal was talking about Bosnia. I didn't really talk much, then he went on to the countries political leaders he basically just spouted that comment out. I understood the discussion could end poorly, but I didn't really talk much about it. I didn't even get to respond as he left before I could. --Imposter101 (talk) 17:40, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

I believe so, but that doesn't excuse it's nature does it now? I hope that's not the case. Imposter101 (talk) 17:49, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

So I can say anything I want?

Seriously Supha? Then you can't penalize me, or tell me to stop saying Newfag. --Imposter101 (talk) 18:05, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

http://cdn.memegenerator.co/instances/600x/40265783.jpg

I found this on a member's profile.

Supah I can't take this anymore, I'm respectfully asking you to delete my account. i'll just go about my business as only an IP address.

Thax for listening.Sahron (talk) 20:24, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Supah, some jerk is using my material on his page, just look at this, http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Gargoyles that color scheme hell its even the same godamn IMAGE as the one used http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Divine_Gargoyles HERE the jackass even used a nearly identical name. Look sorry if i seem a bit pissed about this but hell I AM, all i want is the jackass to get his own freaking picture. I mean hes even braging about the color scheme IN THE TALK OF THE PAGE. Id appreciate it if you got on this whenever you are able, thanks you in advance.T42 (talk) 06:04, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Supah what do the dates have to do with the fact that the guy poached my picture? T42 (talk) 19:37, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

There are no words for how stupid i feel at this very moment. I'm very sorry for all of this I think I'm just going to take a moment to think about all of this. Very sorry again.T42 (talk) 19:47, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Aliris Sector
Aliris sector borders the Cadian Sector puting it in easy range of the Eye of Terror. It has been a theatre of action in eight out of twelve Black Crusades, hence the Hadronian Wall defenses of which the Night Stalkers and the Sons Sanguine are a part. There are also two Chaos worlds in the sector as well as two forbidden ones (in the Wall sub-sector) and all sorts of nastiness in the Podromos Reach. I want the White Consuls to have a presence because they played a role in the destruction of the Flame Falcons and can be expected to react negatively to the Phoenix Brethren when they find out about them. Cato is not the Consul's home-world but one of the several planets described as being under the Chapter's control (like Boros)  please say that will be all right! And of course nobody outside of the Reach knows about the Phoenix Brethren - until the Black Sun Crusade.

Darn. Did it againKadjah Thoris (talk) 18:32, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Just what I was about to do! Kadjah Thoris (talk) 18:35, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hello supah thx for your help earlier, but I have yet another series of questions for you. thx for listening...i look forward to your reply. Sahron (talk) 21:48, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) how does a world become a demon world?
 * 2) how does a demon world get moved into the warp?
 * 3) can one escape the Eye of Terror? Sane.
 * 4) Can a psycher of, say, Librarian level, generate a geller field? Can a group pool their efforts to create a stronger field? Will the field be viable( aka have a chance of stopping daemons and other random crap from getting through)?

thx for responding. damn i need to make a page on all this...........Sahron (talk) 01:37, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Um can a Space Marine Chapter not know their geneseed lineage? thx for listening. Sahron (talk) 18:09, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

thx supah.Sahron (talk) 21:13, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Fear God?
Would I be able to make a minor fear god for my Chaos Warband?

I was told to ask you before I made him.

He basically would feed off fear, but would be weakened by bravery or loyalty, etc.

So, yeah, that is it.

Thanks!

Zombie-boy will get you 22:10, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hey,

Recently a anon trolled my wiki, said something about Fox2013. i heard that this user was on this wiki. Could you help clear this up?

Thank you,

<font color="Gold" style="background:black">Admiral of fleet <font color="Gold" size="3" style="background:black">And proud! 15:43, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

I forgot too ad th link to the attack, here it is http://theonlinerpg.wikia.com/wiki/RPG%27s. <font color="Gold" style="background:black">Admiral of fleet <font color="Gold" size="3" style="background:black">And proud! 15:44, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Too quote what he said it was "FOX2013 HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG" <font color="Gold" style="background:black">Admiral of fleet <font color="Gold" size="3" style="background:black">And proud! 17:17, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok then. Thank you agin for your help! <font color="Gold" style="background:black">Admiral of fleet <font color="Gold" size="3" style="background:black">And proud! 18:21, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Adepus Astra Cartographum
I can tell, from lookin at the edit history of the article, that you did not immediately put the NCF mark on my article, but waited to give me a chance to defend my article, and I appreciate that.

I was unable to take advantage of the opportunity because have been sick this past week and a half; I was only able to come on here sporadically, and not at all the past few days; I didn't notice the tag on it, or see the comments in the Talk Page, until today.

I ask your forbearance for a little while longer, to permit me to make a defense of my article. Jochannon (talk) 12:42, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

k fixed it can i get the NCF off then? honestly i dont see why you put it on my stuff im as prompt as can be with this kinda stuff.T42 (talk) 03:59, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Unlocking Article
====So I think my article is locked in some way? as it seems I am the only one who can modify it, and me and my friends are planning to revamp the whole article. So it would be hella useful if you could unlock it for us.==== http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Alfa_Legion

Garrot (talk) 13:46, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Oi supah I made a Hive Fleet, Hive Fleet Pishacha, and would like some advice and critqe. Just wanna know I'm doing this right I've heard Hive Fleets are particularly challanging.T42 (talk) 06:21, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Nah, you can leave it for others to read. Who knows, someone might be interested in it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:20, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hello there Supahbadmarine! I just started here on the wiki and accidently created my chapter page as a guest (sky templars/templars of midnight). I was wondering if it would be possible to delete all traces of the original page and leave the one I made on my account entitled "Codex: Sky Templars" so I could then rename the latter (Codex: Sky Templars) to "Sky Templars" to keep it in line with the norm. Thanks!